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Old 08-18-2021, 11:14 PM   #309
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Nobody, lol. Meh the vaccine doesn't stop the spreading of it and apparently is ineffective against the variants so I think you can blame whoever you want but the case for mandated vaccines is out the window.

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Vaxx hesitancy can also be related to lots of other reasons like religion, fertility, and wanting FDA approval to name a few. Unfortunately, those who see no problem with shredding the Bill of Rights lump them all together as anti-vaxxers with their totalitarian Orwellian newspeak.
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Uneducated statement here: but our immune system hasn't adapted to the 'flu family of viruses. If one wants a 'flu vaccination one has to get a new best guess vaccination each year.
As I said, it is a hope - not a prediction. I've seen reports that the human genome shows evidence of exposures to pandemic level pathogens in the distant past to which our bodies eventually adapted and that have vanished into pre-history. I cannot begin to explain the science, but there you have it.

So some people think it CAN happen. Will it this time? Man, my crystal ball threw a rod and is waiting for a K-swap. Absent that, I wouldn't bet on it.
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Old 08-19-2021, 01:35 AM   #311
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That’s cool your religion and resistance to science because you think you understand science better than those who developed this science is more important than the rights of everyone else that does not want to transmit or acquire covid.
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That's the ignorance of the anti-vaxxer.

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Nobody, lol. Meh the vaccine doesn't stop the spreading of it and apparently is ineffective against the variants so I think you can blame whoever you want but the case for mandated vaccines is out the window.
Wrong on both counts. Just look at the pictogram I posted earlier. If all those orange dudes had been vaccinated, the number of white dudes would be slightly higher (for example the number currently hospitalized would move from one to two) but the total number hospitalized would also change (to 2).

This is real-world data that shows the vaccine works exactly like they said it would, about 95%.

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Booster shot of Pfizer vaccine improves immunity

Recent clinical data from Israel (which is doing some of the best, cutting-edge, and fastest emerging research in the world on COVID):

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizers...le_email_share
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She wrote of one who had used the tired trope that he was waiting for full FDA approval before getting the shot. .
The next time someone tries to use this as an excuse, ask them to describe the differences between EUA and BLA, and specifically which of those are problematic and why.
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Radio host spreading anti-vaxx misinformation dies of COVID:https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...253569969.html


Seriously, there have been so many of these at this point I've lost count...
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If possible, it would be interesting to see a breakout of patient infections by COVID variant in Dadhawk's graphic.

For those saying they're concerned about other's welfare, do you think that most would choose vaccinations or freedom in Kabul today?
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Safeway grocery/pharmacy just sent an email that booster shots (they're calling them additional COVID-19 vaccine doses) are available now for free on a walk-in basis if you've already complied with initial CDC recommended dosing. Plus 10% off your next grocery purchase. I'm going to call the pharmacy when they open at 10:00 to see which vaccine they're injecting.

From the email:

"The CDC recommends an additional dose of the COVID-19 vaccine* for moderate to severe immunocompromised individuals who meet the eligibility criteria and have completed the two-shot series from Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna."
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Quick update.

My infected Pfizer vaxxed friend is improving. Crossing our fingers that there are no setbacks.

My PCR came back negative.

The husband of one of my wife's coworkers was working out of state, came home, and promptly developed the virus. She doesn't know his vax status. He has now developed pneumonia. Scuttlebutt at her office is that at least one hospital turned him away due to lack of beds.
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So are work they want workers to social distance at 6ft but don't require us to wear a mask. O_o
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So are work they want workers to social distance at 6ft but don't require us to wear a mask. O_o

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