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jduffy · 12-06-2012, 01:19 PM

Dang, this is my first experience so it's all new to me. The rep said the right things now I just have to wait and see how she sorts this out.

I love this freaking car and want to drive it!

Marrk · 12-06-2012, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jduffy

Dang, this is my first experience so it's all new to me. The rep said the right things now I just have to wait and see how she sorts this out.

I love this freaking car and want to drive it!

I know. I don't know nuthin' 'bout no Subaru either. Others here have more expertise and history with the brand. I always asumed they were just another (good) Japanese car mfr.

EJ33177 · 12-06-2012, 06:15 PM

Final Update:

32 total days in shop, one ECU reflash, two ECUs replaced, and VVTi replaced and I'm finally fixed!

Picked up today, Toyota Field Rep came down and put in an 812 ECU. Field Rep took it on an extended 50+ mile road test and gave clean bill of health.

I drove it hard for two hours straight after picking it up with zero problems. No CEL or TRAC and idle is a constant 700 RPMs cold and warmed up.

I'm calling it fixed!

whtchocla7e · 12-07-2012, 08:18 AM

Congrats.

arucard77 · 12-07-2012, 06:45 PM

Hooray! I get to join the CEL club today (sarcasm)! Almost hit 3000 miles before it happened...

jduffy · 12-07-2012, 07:55 PM

Quick update, the Subaru rep contacted the dealer and they got the flash and so they brought me in this morning and it's done.

So far I do notice that the car has a faster idle but mostly when the car is cold. The car pulls away cleaner now when cold as well. Before it would bog down just a little bit.

Full credit to the Subaru rep for getting me taken care of so quickly. Ready for a nice sunny weekend of driving.

Red Shift · 12-07-2012, 08:38 PM

Red Shift, BRZ, 1500 mi, 6032XX, PA; ECU to be replaced, ETA next month

FT86Dubai · 12-09-2012, 07:12 AM

Toyota 86 M/T with 1100km on the clock, 10/12 production:
it happend after revving the engine hard then coming to a complete stop, idle became rough and started to decrease to 400 rpm then the engine CEL&SL came in

I thought the issue was resolved from Sept. Production. I took it to the dealer and they say this is the first case and apparently they seem to have no idea of what is going on. Searched a lot and I cant seem to find the exact problem. Some say its just a reflash and other say cam sprocket while in the BRZ section ECUs are being replaced. Any thoughts?

Thanks

FT86Dubai · 12-09-2012, 11:07 AM

Just contacted the stealership and they said that my cel/sl issue is ecu related but their still waiting for response from senior technicians to confirm. Ill post their response when I hear from them.

mx5apex · 12-09-2012, 10:32 PM

Is this issue slowing down in occurrences?? There hasn't been too many new cases showing up like there was in the beginning. Maybe they're using the new "coolant thermostat tsb" to get those that might pop up form time to time and nip it in the bud.

Sean K. · 12-10-2012, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx5apex

Is this issue slowing down in occurrences?? There hasn't been too many new cases showing up like there was in the beginning. Maybe they're using the new "coolant thermostat tsb" to get those that might pop up form time to time and nip it in the bud.

I too have noticed what appears to be a marked slow down in reporting on this site of t he CEL/VVT idle problem in recent weeks. I'm hoping that means they've got the problem under control.

I have a gut feeling (that's all it is) that the new TSB will also reflash the ECU in an attempt to fix the CEL at the same time.

2 cents,

Sean

soconfoozed · 12-10-2012, 12:30 PM

I'm officially no longer an 86 owner. Turned in my keys this morning. The BRZ will trouble me no more. Just couldn't handle the reliability issues. Maybe in a few years, I'll try again. I believe in Tada's vision. I just can't trust the product as delivered.

Sucks. At least SoA made it right, kind of. Really making it right would have been just fixing the car definitively. But I'm not stuck with a car I'm afraid of, so plus points to Subaru.

Skye · 12-10-2012, 01:39 PM

What are you getting instead?

HATED1 · 12-11-2012, 01:13 PM

After my ECU/ECM got replaced, a few thousand miles later, everything is great, hang in their guys!

12-07-2012, 08:18 AM	#2328
whtchocla7e Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Hot Lava Location: CT Posts: 424 Thanks: 30 Thanked 222 Times in 81 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Congrats. __________________ Live to drive another day

12-09-2012, 07:12 AM	#2332
FT86Dubai Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 Location: UAE-Dubai Posts: 168 Thanks: 41 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota 86 M/T with 1100km on the clock, 10/12 production: it happend after revving the engine hard then coming to a complete stop, idle became rough and started to decrease to 400 rpm then the engine CEL&SL came in I thought the issue was resolved from Sept. Production. I took it to the dealer and they say this is the first case and apparently they seem to have no idea of what is going on. Searched a lot and I cant seem to find the exact problem. Some say its just a reflash and other say cam sprocket while in the BRZ section ECUs are being replaced. Any thoughts? Thanks __________________ 2013 Toyota 86 (Sold it and regretting)

12-09-2012, 11:07 AM	#2333
FT86Dubai Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 Location: UAE-Dubai Posts: 168 Thanks: 41 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just contacted the stealership and they said that my cel/sl issue is ecu related but their still waiting for response from senior technicians to confirm. Ill post their response when I hear from them. __________________ 2013 Toyota 86 (Sold it and regretting)

12-10-2012, 12:30 PM	#2336
soconfoozed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl Location: San Diego Posts: 147 Thanks: 27 Thanked 90 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm officially no longer an 86 owner. Turned in my keys this morning. The BRZ will trouble me no more. Just couldn't handle the reliability issues. Maybe in a few years, I'll try again. I believe in Tada's vision. I just can't trust the product as delivered. Sucks. At least SoA made it right, kind of. Really making it right would have been just fixing the car definitively. But I'm not stuck with a car I'm afraid of, so plus points to Subaru. __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl

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12-06-2012, 01:19 PM	#2325
jduffy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 157 Thanks: 29 Thanked 71 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dang, this is my first experience so it's all new to me. The rep said the right things now I just have to wait and see how she sorts this out. I love this freaking car and want to drive it!

12-07-2012, 07:55 PM	#2330
jduffy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 157 Thanks: 29 Thanked 71 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Quick update, the Subaru rep contacted the dealer and they got the flash and so they brought me in this morning and it's done. So far I do notice that the car has a faster idle but mostly when the car is cold. The car pulls away cleaner now when cold as well. Before it would bog down just a little bit. Full credit to the Subaru rep for getting me taken care of so quickly. Ready for a nice sunny weekend of driving.

12-07-2012, 08:38 PM	#2331
Red Shift Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Blue BRZ Location: Philadelphia Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Red Shift, BRZ, 1500 mi, 6032XX, PA; ECU to be replaced, ETA next month

12-09-2012, 10:32 PM	#2334
mx5apex Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2010 Mazda 3 hatch Location: st. Louis Posts: 32 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is this issue slowing down in occurrences?? There hasn't been too many new cases showing up like there was in the beginning. Maybe they're using the new "coolant thermostat tsb" to get those that might pop up form time to time and nip it in the bud.

12-10-2012, 01:39 PM	#2337
Skye Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: TR2,CooperS,BRZ Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 72 Thanks: 63 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What are you getting instead?

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