Musings on Wording

[MuseChaser]

A decade or three ago, when someone wanted to append an additional affirmative clause or descriptor to a thought, the word that most folks used was "too," as in, "Me, too," "I'd like to go, too," or "we have a dog, three cats, and a three-legged gopher, too."

A while ago, folks started using "as well" in place of "too." That always grated on me; to me, it came off sounding pretentious and affected. Years went by, more and more people adopted it, and now I hardly ever hear anyone use "too;" everyone uses "as well" now. I even find myself using it as well (CRAP!).

What happened to "too?" Why use two words when one "too" can be used?
Perhaps to convey increased smartment?

[86Boyz]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Perhaps to convey increased smartment?

i would say that is probably the right reason

for instance

"have a good rest of the day"

"you as well"

what happened to just saying, "you too"... it's much quicker and easier to say

smart asses

[Tectoniic]

In our current meme-tastic world, "Me too"/"Me as well" has devolved into "same." Simpler and easier. Who said us millennials aren't good for anything?

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Tectoniic

.. Who said us millennials aren't good for anything? ..

Certainly not I. I've sired several of'em, and love'em dearly... as well.

[86Boyz]

or we can sound even more pretentious and say "likewise"

"nice car"

"likewise"

[LOLS2K]

Samesies.

[bcj]

No U

[finch1750]

I tend to use the shortest words possible, but if I'm writing for something (academic, whitepaper, article, etc) I will use all forms of a saying to avoid sounding repetative.

One of my biggest pet peeve is using complex words in everyday conversation. It just bugs the hell out of me because I do feel people do it to show off.

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Certainly not I. I've sired several of'em, and love'em dearly... as well.

Why the hell can't you just say "Not me. My kids are millenials and I love em".

This isnt a novel so why be so formal about it?

[86Boyz]

Originally Posted by finch1750

I tend to use the shortest words possible, but if I'm writing for something (academic, whitepaper, article, etc) I will use all forms of a saying to avoid sounding repetative.

One of my biggest pet peeve is using complex words in everyday conversation. It just bugs the hell out of me because I do feel people do it to show off.

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Why the hell can't you just say "Not me. My kids are millenials and I love em".

This isnt a novel so why be so formal about it?

because he is a scholar

[cjd]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

A decade or three ago, when someone wanted to append an additional affirmative clause or descriptor to a thought, the word that most folks used was "too," as in, "Me, too," "I'd like to go, too," or "we have a dog, three cats, and a three-legged gopher, too."

A while ago, folks started using "as well" in place of "too." That always grated on me; to me, it came off sounding pretentious and affected. Years went by, more and more people adopted it, and now I hardly ever hear anyone use "too;" everyone uses "as well" now. I even find myself using it as well (CRAP!).

What happened to "too?" Why use two words when one "too" can be used?
Perhaps to convey increased smartment?

Why say "even" and "as well" (or "too") in a sentence? That doesn't make sense, and is a waste of words. A lot of people would say "as well" on that last sentence for no good reason (this one, too...)

I think I use "also" or "too" most often.

I'd wager that a lot of people just don't know which to/two/too is the right one, so they use different words.

C

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by finch1750

I tend to use the shortest words possible, but if I'm writing for something (academic, whitepaper, article, etc) I will use all forms of a saying to avoid sounding repetative.

One of my biggest pet peeve is using complex words in everyday conversation. It just bugs the hell out of me because I do feel people do it to show off.

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Why the hell can't you just say "Not me. My kids are millenials and I love em".

This isnt a novel so why be so formal about it?

Why does using more descriptive or complex words make it showing off? That is the way some people talk. I use complex words all he time and am not showing off or being pretentious it is just simply the words I use. Much of the use of words can be regional and just because somebody says "sired" and it may not seem normal to you does not make it abnormal to others. You would probably be appalled at how I speak if you think using such words is showing off. Some of it slips through here even when I generally ignore all rules of grammar since I usually am rushing what I write.
As far as the use of "too" goes I don't pay attention enough to what I say to tell you if I ever say "as well" but I do not believe that I do.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Why does using more descriptive or complex words make it showing off? That is the way some people talk. I use complex words all he time and am not showing off or being pretentious it is just simply the words I use. Much of the use of words can be regional and just because somebody says "sired" and it may not seem normal to you does not make it abnormal to others. You would probably be appalled at how I speak if you think using such words is showing off. Some of it slips through here even when I generally ignore all rules of grammar since I usually am rushing what I write.
As far as the use of "too" goes I don't pay attention enough to what I say to tell you if I ever say "as well" but I do not believe that I do.

That is true. I think it's a pet peeve because I grew up in AP type classes full of people who thought they were smarter then everyone else. They would use vocabulary (among other things) to make themselves feel superior so my past history has me leaning that way. I don't automatically dislike someone who talks that way but my gut reaction is that it is offputting.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by finch1750

That is true. I think it's a pet peeve because I grew up in AP type classes full of people who thought they were smarter then everyone else. They would use vocabulary (among other things) to make themselves feel superior so my past history has me leaning that way. I don't automatically dislike someone who talks that way but my gut reaction is that it is offputting.

I do have issues when people TRY to use such words and obviously have no clue as to what they mean or the context in which they should be used.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I do have issues when people TRY to use such words and obviously have no clue as to what they mean or the context in which they should be used.

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