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Old 10-16-2016, 08:46 AM   #15
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Very nice, I have something similar designed, but haven't figured out my reverse lockout yet. I would love to try this thing out though.

A customer of mine is racing in Germany currently, I wonder if he can bring it back for me....
I am sure a significant amount of R&D goes into a product like this to get the right feel and reliability. Remember they made shifters for BMW for a long time before making one for the FT86.

Wouldn't it be a lot easier for you to ask them if you can become a dealer? It seems like there are already at least 2 potential customers in this thread. I phoned with them when ordering mine, so if you are interested I could help you with contact details.
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I am sure a significant amount of R&D goes into a product like this to get the right feel and reliability. Remember they made shifters for BMW for a long time before making one for the FT86.

Wouldn't it be a lot easier for you to ask them if you can become a dealer? It seems like there are already at least 2 potential customers in this thread. I phoned with them when ordering mine, so if you are interested I could help you with contact details.
Actually, I have already started chatting with them! It looks like I am going to be bringing a few into the states! I'm very excited to try this out in my shop car as well.

Thanks for starting this thread!
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I'd be interested in one. Let us know when you get them.
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hopefully it has similar travel distance/feel to the CAE
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I'm assuming the shaft/shift knob area is aluminum? Curious how hot it would be after sitting in the sun for a while since a different knob obviously isn't an option.
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I'm assuming the shaft/shift knob area is aluminum? Curious how hot it would be after sitting in the sun for a while since a different knob obviously isn't an option.
in my MR2 when I had a black aluminum ball knob (stupid idea, I quickly switched that out) I used a brake reservoir sock over it when parking. I learned my lesson when I basically burned my palm trying to reverse out of the parking spot (reverse was really hard to get into and needed some force).
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I'm assuming the shaft/shift knob area is aluminum? Curious how hot it would be after sitting in the sun for a while since a different knob obviously isn't an option.
Yes, the whole assembly is aluminum. It's very lightweight, I can imagine that it could get hot, but given that it doesn't feel like it has a lot of mass my guess is that it would cool equally fast.
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Definitely interested in this. Subbed for future content.
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Pretty cool option to the CAE. Not sure about the bracket design - with that geometry it looks like it would flex much more than the CAE, CAE is rock solid in feel...like SOLID with zero hint of any movement when the shifter is put into gear. One difference, beside the much thicker walls of the shifting mechanism in the CAE, is there is a reverse lockout stop adjustment on the CAE and not one on the IRP.

Would really be interested on how the IRP compares to the CAE in shifting feel.
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Unmodifiable and metal knob might make usability issue indeed. Of course, if one considers just and only track use with gloves, not so much, but i guess that most will still put on way longer mileage during dailydriving outside track. Would be nice to see it customised with some delrin(?) cover around knob to increase "normal" driving comfort/usability, imho shouldn't increase price too much.
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Pretty cool option to the CAE. Not sure about the bracket design - with that geometry it looks like it would flex much more than the CAE, CAE is rock solid in feel...like SOLID with zero hint of any movement when the shifter is put into gear. One difference, beside the much thicker walls of the shifting mechanism in the CAE, is there is a reverse lockout stop adjustment on the CAE and not one on the IRP.

Would really be interested on how the IRP compares to the CAE in shifting feel.
I too like Vracer run the CAE, which I think is a really amazing shifter, but would have really thought hard about giving this IRP shifter a shot if it was available at the time.

The one key difference I see between the two shifters is the centering spring on the CAE shifter that brings the shifter back to neutral when you pull it out of gear, which I see the IRP does not have. I too would really like to see how the two shifters compare in shifting feel.
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I ordered some spare parts yesterday and hopefully will get it installed over the weekend. I don't know if the parts are actually needed or not. But someone made a DIY on the German forum and recommended changing them. My car is 3 years old but low mileage. Probably it's not really necessary. But as I don't want to get stuck in the middle of the install I ordered them too.

It's just some small stuff for a few bucks only. As the bill is lying here on the table next to me I'll might as well list the part numbers:

Rubber boot (Subaru: 35016CA020 Toyota: SU003-00881) - 14.88€
O-Ring (Subaru: 35035CA020 Toyota: SU003-04101) - 1.24€
Split (Subaru: 35057CA010 Toyota: SU003-00898) - 3.30€
Washer (Subaru: 35038CA010 Toyota: SU003-00892) - 2.08€

As a rough guideline, I guess you can convert € to $ 1:1.

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Pretty cool option to the CAE. Not sure about the bracket design - with that geometry it looks like it would flex much more than the CAE
There is no way in hell that bracket will flex (if it flexes you have bigger problems! ). It's 4.5 mm aluminum. Any thicker would just be unnecessary weight.

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One difference, beside the much thicker walls of the shifting mechanism in the CAE, is there is a reverse lockout stop adjustment on the CAE and not one on the IRP.
I'll report back if it's an issue or not when putting it into reverse.

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The one key difference I see between the two shifters is the centering spring on the CAE shifter that brings the shifter back to neutral when you pull it out of gear, which I see the IRP does not have.
I never saw the CAE shifter in person and was wondering what the purpose of the spring was. Thanks for clearing that up. Stock shifter doesn't return to neutral either so the question is how much a difference it makes during actual shifting. Maybe it's just for easier getting into neutral? Obviously, I won't be able to compare but I'll keep that in mind as well when driving it and report if it would feel like something I would be missing.
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I never saw the CAE shifter in person and was wondering what the purpose of the spring was. Thanks for clearing that up. Stock shifter doesn't return to neutral either so the question is how much a difference it makes during actual shifting. Maybe it's just for easier getting into neutral? Obviously, I won't be able to compare but I'll keep that in mind as well when driving it and report if it would feel like something I would be missing.
I think his statement was worded slightly ambiguous. What he means is that the spring helps the shifter return to center when not in gear. The stock lever returns to center when not in gear but is controlled by the springs in the trans.
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Where are you guys seeing that they won't ship to the states? Comes up fine for me...

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