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m.box.design · 05-09-2019, 12:20 PM

I think one thing the 86 has over the Supra is interior design. The 86 interior doesn't look like any other Toyota or Subaru interior, which is a win; because as a driver, that's where you spend 100% of your time. The exterior is for other people to look at.

WolfpackS2k · 05-09-2019, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Everyone says that all the time.
Why get this when you can get that for the same or similar or just a bit more money?

the car's do not compete against each other directly, and they're different cars.
One's a ground up sports car (supra), the other is a hotted up compact car (M2).

Its the same thing as why get an 86 when you can get a faster more comfortable hot hatch for maybe less?

even if the ultimate capabilities will be greater for one over the other the driving experience will be a different.

This is 100% me. Under the skin the Supra is almost entirely a BMW. If I'm shopping for a RWD coupe with a high level of performance in the $45-60k range, I'm looking at both the Supra and the M2. And the fact that I'd want a manual transmission ends the comparison right there for me. Both BMWs, and one is available with row your own...unless you're in love with the looks of the Supra, no point in further consideration.

gymratter · 05-09-2019, 07:02 PM

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/med...nt.1759/page-5

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWPg4_EVlZ4[/ame]

vh_supra26 · 05-11-2019, 12:11 PM

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/vid...ew-supra.1769/

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmzNNckDm4s[/ame]

Captain Snooze · 05-11-2019, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m.box.design

because as a driver, that's where you spend 100% of your time along with posting on car forums.

Ftfy.

funwheeldrive · 05-11-2019, 10:33 PM

The only saving grace I see about the Supra over the M2 is that Toyota was probably obsessed with reliability. The twins are a very solid platform, but I personally think that wouldn't have been the case if Subaru developed the car on its own. Toyota seems to have been very cautious with the roll out of the Supra and I bet it's because they are trying to make it as fine tuned as possible. That's my hope anyways.

ichitaka05 · 05-12-2019, 12:44 AM

Some might already know from social media, but Guff was lucky enough to go, so he’ll be uploading a vid of new Supra review soon.

ichitaka05 · 05-12-2019, 12:53 AM

Long story short, I wasn’t invited to Supra event, but Tada-san call Toyota US to bring me to the event.

I’ll be posting the review some time next week. I’m not gonna rush to post the review. I’m not trying to get many click or anything & want to make sure I don’t rush it out to miss or misinform anyone.

alan.chalkley · 05-12-2019, 01:28 AM

The tacho red line on the supra seems a bit lower than on the 86 , so less winding it out between gear changes = less fun.
The 86 tacho red line is also lower than the previous VVTLI celica.
So is history showing lower and lower rpm on sports cars?

gymratter · 05-12-2019, 02:43 PM

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/vid...celerate.1771/

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JCkCEFw5m8[/ame]

Rampage · 05-12-2019, 06:01 PM

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Coaster · 05-12-2019, 06:16 PM

"Toyota's tryst with BMW has produced its best driver's car ever."

-car and driver, Supra review

Looks like T. Tada and crew have crafted something special.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

gymratter · 05-12-2019, 08:07 PM

all the reviews posted on our sister forum!

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...pilation.1777/

vh_supra26 · 05-13-2019, 01:19 AM

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/int...ch.1760/page-3

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34iNsJcGTFA[/ame]

View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one	32	12.17%
I might get one if they offer a MT	100	38.02%
No, not me.	131	49.81%
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05-11-2019, 12:11 PM	#1110
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05-12-2019, 12:44 AM	#1113
ichitaka05 Site Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: ichi 86 Project Location: Middle of No where Posts: 20,966 Thanks: 7,664 Thanked 19,052 Times in 8,327 Posts Mentioned: 677 Post(s) Tagged: 27 Thread(s)	Some might already know from social media, but Guff was lucky enough to go, so he’ll be uploading a vid of new Supra review soon. __________________

05-12-2019, 12:53 AM	#1114
ichitaka05 Site Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: ichi 86 Project Location: Middle of No where Posts: 20,966 Thanks: 7,664 Thanked 19,052 Times in 8,327 Posts Mentioned: 677 Post(s) Tagged: 27 Thread(s)	Long story short, I wasn’t invited to Supra event, but Tada-san call Toyota US to bring me to the event. I’ll be posting the review some time next week. I’m not gonna rush to post the review. I’m not trying to get many click or anything & want to make sure I don’t rush it out to miss or misinform anyone. __________________

05-12-2019, 06:01 PM	#1117
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05-09-2019, 12:20 PM	#1107
m.box.design Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 3,081 Thanks: 331 Thanked 1,662 Times in 933 Posts Mentioned: 107 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think one thing the 86 has over the Supra is interior design. The 86 interior doesn't look like any other Toyota or Subaru interior, which is a win; because as a driver, that's where you spend 100% of your time. The exterior is for other people to look at.

05-09-2019, 07:02 PM	#1109
gymratter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: BMW Location: TX Posts: 2,395 Thanks: 1,971 Thanked 1,825 Times in 952 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	https://www.supramkv.com/threads/med...nt.1759/page-5 [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWPg4_EVlZ4[/ame]

05-11-2019, 10:33 PM	#1112
funwheeldrive Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: BANNED FOR TELLING THE TRUTH Location: MODS ARE ON A POWER TRIP Posts: 3,447 Thanks: 7,830 Thanked 3,022 Times in 1,409 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The only saving grace I see about the Supra over the M2 is that Toyota was probably obsessed with reliability. The twins are a very solid platform, but I personally think that wouldn't have been the case if Subaru developed the car on its own. Toyota seems to have been very cautious with the roll out of the Supra and I bet it's because they are trying to make it as fine tuned as possible. That's my hope anyways.

05-12-2019, 01:28 AM	#1115
alan.chalkley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 4wd zooks Location: Sydney / Australia Posts: 495 Thanks: 135 Thanked 167 Times in 108 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The tacho red line on the supra seems a bit lower than on the 86 , so less winding it out between gear changes = less fun. The 86 tacho red line is also lower than the previous VVTLI celica. So is history showing lower and lower rpm on sports cars?

05-12-2019, 02:43 PM	#1116
gymratter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: BMW Location: TX Posts: 2,395 Thanks: 1,971 Thanked 1,825 Times in 952 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	https://www.supramkv.com/threads/vid...celerate.1771/ [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JCkCEFw5m8[/ame]

05-12-2019, 06:16 PM	#1118
Coaster Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Civic Location: NY Posts: 195 Thanks: 74 Thanked 80 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"Toyota's tryst with BMW has produced its best driver's car ever." -car and driver, Supra review Looks like T. Tada and crew have crafted something special. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

05-12-2019, 08:07 PM	#1119
gymratter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: BMW Location: TX Posts: 2,395 Thanks: 1,971 Thanked 1,825 Times in 952 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2020 Supra (A90) Reviews Compilation! all the reviews posted on our sister forum! https://www.supramkv.com/threads/202...pilation.1777/

05-13-2019, 01:19 AM	#1120
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