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Dadhawk · 05-03-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhaust

Ahhh the mk2 how can i forget such a beauty.

If i remember correctly dont you own a MR2?

No, I did own one. I bought one of the first 100 1985 models right off the truck as it was being delivered to my Toyota dealer. It's the whole reason I'm interested in the FR-S. Don't have a (digital) photo of it, but this is exactly what she looked like. I still miss that car.

SVTSHC · 05-03-2012, 07:07 PM

I SEE NO SUPRA >=(

Hybrid.... AWD....
What da hyell

RearDrive · 05-03-2012, 09:27 PM

Whats with all this hybrid BS? First the new NSX and now this if this goes through. Sports cars arent about good fuel economy, gah.

YukiHachiRoku · 05-03-2012, 09:36 PM

Lost · 05-04-2012, 11:46 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/04/t...-in-the-cards/

M-17 · 05-04-2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/04/t...-in-the-cards/

Man this is getting old.

Toyota just needs to do it or cut the crap.

Dark · 05-04-2012, 01:27 PM

I'm totally fine with Hybrid, but AWD and CVT? Really, Toyota?

Sasquachulator · 05-04-2012, 02:49 PM

Hey there is hope, they have Akio Toyoda at the helm now.
He has the final say on all these projects.

I would think that if they resurrected the Supra, they'd need to figure out which direction they want to go.

-Hybrid powertrain is all the rage now so they MIGHT do that. (They'd have to call it something different then IMO, not Supra)

-Or they go all passion/no commitee method and build it like its supposed to be built.

Oh and i gotta say that Motor Trend rendering looks hideous. Its like a Dune Buggy and MR2 had a baby, and they beat it with the ugly stick.

Exhaust · 05-04-2012, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

No, I did own one. I bought one of the first 100 1985 models right off the truck as it was being delivered to my Toyota dealer. It's the whole reason I'm interested in the FR-S. Don't have a (digital) photo of it, but this is exactly what she looked like. I still miss that car.

You sir, have great taste in cars!

vh_supra26 · 05-05-2012, 12:08 AM

I think a new Supra successor will be based on the FT-HS concept. Its not a bad design, just needs to be refreshed a bit.

Dark · 05-05-2012, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

I think a new Supra successor will be based on the FT-HS concept. Its not a bad design, just needs to be refreshed a bit.

Problem here is not the exterior design, but the powertrain and tranny they are going to use.

vaporiz · 05-05-2012, 02:48 PM

The front of that is way too hideous, it looks like cheap plastic.

madfast · 05-05-2012, 04:44 PM

a sporty toyota hybrid is not all that hard and actually nothing to scoff at. look no further than the NSX and 918 for examples of what a hybrid sports car can be. the 918 will turn hybrid from a dirty word, to the future of sports cars. its inevitable.

toyota already has a good engine/motor/tranny in the GS450h. 338 hp/254 ft lbs. not enough? the 3.5L V6 in the 450h uses the Atkinson cycle. they can either supercharge it (Miller cycle), use the Otto cycle 2GR-FSE, or even a supercharged 2GR-FSE to add more power. still not enough? 2UR-GSE anyone?

AWD? yes because you want a small motor/generator on the front axle to capture more regen. the added power, and the stability of AWD, is just a plus. all sport hybrids will most likely be AWD for this reason. the NSX and 918 again are prime examples.

AlmostMDD · 05-05-2012, 06:25 PM

So, in reply to madfast, I agree hybrids will be the future, and the hybrid AWD combo just makes sense, but there is not way that I'll be interested in a sports car with a CVT. The only real issue is the transmission. Personally (nothing against those that choose an autobox or Dual Clutch), if it won't have a manual option, I'm not interested.

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05-03-2012, 07:07 PM	#170
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vaporiz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 350z Location: CA Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The front of that is way too hideous, it looks like cheap plastic.

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madfast Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2010 Evo X MR-T Location: NY Posts: 942 Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	a sporty toyota hybrid is not all that hard and actually nothing to scoff at. look no further than the NSX and 918 for examples of what a hybrid sports car can be. the 918 will turn hybrid from a dirty word, to the future of sports cars. its inevitable. toyota already has a good engine/motor/tranny in the GS450h. 338 hp/254 ft lbs. not enough? the 3.5L V6 in the 450h uses the Atkinson cycle. they can either supercharge it (Miller cycle), use the Otto cycle 2GR-FSE, or even a supercharged 2GR-FSE to add more power. still not enough? 2UR-GSE anyone? AWD? yes because you want a small motor/generator on the front axle to capture more regen. the added power, and the stability of AWD, is just a plus. all sport hybrids will most likely be AWD for this reason. the NSX and 918 again are prime examples.

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AlmostMDD Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 99 2.5RS Location: Alberta Posts: 22 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So, in reply to madfast, I agree hybrids will be the future, and the hybrid AWD combo just makes sense, but there is not way that I'll be interested in a sports car with a CVT. The only real issue is the transmission. Personally (nothing against those that choose an autobox or Dual Clutch), if it won't have a manual option, I'm not interested.

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