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Old 04-29-2020, 09:58 PM   #2339
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I wouldn't want more than 250 whp out of a turbo 2litre. Reliability will suffer.
That depends on the manufacturer.

The 2.0 TSI EA888 Gen3 engines found in the Audi TTS, S3 and Golf R are rated at 292hp and 280tq with 91 octane and were pretty reliable.

I met a handful of guys when I had my GTI who were running stage 2 (intake, downpipe and intercooler upgrades) and were putting out an average of 400hp/400tq...on the stock turbo with no problems for tens of thousand of miles.
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I wouldn't want more than 250 whp out of a turbo 2litre. Reliability will suffer.

I had a 2010 Sti purchased brand new and then at 25K miles added Cobb Accessport, a 1 cat Downpipe and full 3" Borla exhaust. Sold it at 90K miles and I NEVER had anything go wrong. NEVER.
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If any vehicle is described as having a brake based electronic LSD, you can interpret that as being crap, and the cheapest possible way to control wheelspin via a differential.
I think it depends. Agree it's definitely the cheapest option, but on my mk6 GTI, the brake-based brake vectoring system (VW calls it "XDS") is pretty good on the street at stock power levels and especially with decently sticky tires. It's seamless and a noticeable improvement over most FWD open-diff cars. Mk5 GTI is a great comparison since it's nearly the same chassis, but pre-XDS.

Where I find XDS struggles is on the track, where it quickly puts a ton of heat into the brakes. Once that happens, the brakes start to go and the power-on understeer increases. But I don't really hold that against the XDS system since track driving is outside the scope of intended use.

All things equal, I'd definitely rather have XDS than go without it.
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I had a 2010 Sti purchased brand new and then at 25K miles added Cobb Accessport, a 1 cat Downpipe and full 3" Borla exhaust. Sold it at 90K miles and I NEVER had anything go wrong. NEVER.
Notice I said 2 litre? Some will be lucky and some wont. Talk to some focus rs owners
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Notice I said 2 litre? Some will be lucky and some wont. Talk to some focus rs owners
Coulda been that JDM version bro. You don't know.
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I wouldn't want more than 250 whp out of a turbo 2litre. Reliability will suffer.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...-engine-specs/

416hp 2.0T from the factory.



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Notice I said 2 litre? Some will be lucky and some wont. Talk to some focus rs owners
Focus RS is 2.3L, and the problems are in the manufacture--not the displacement.

Koenigsegg 2.0 3-cylinder 600hp, just saying...

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I wouldn't include a koenigsegg in this discussion. Unobtanium for most. No replacement for displacement if you work for a living
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I wouldn't include a koenigsegg in this discussion. Unobtanium for most. No replacement for displacement if you work for a living
It was just an example. Here is another. There were many different power levels available over the years for the Evo. Just saying, a 440hp 2.0T from the factory:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...-evo-x-fq-440/
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Didnt like it in photos but in person it was beautiful. Saw the C8 and still still have no regrets!
I have seen it once on the road, and I have driven by it at the dealership. It doesn't jump out at me like the 86 did. The 86 called me over to it, but I just haven't been interested in the Supra.

I prefer the sharper lines on the fenders of the 86 than that 90's soft lines of the Supra. I am not a fan of the cuts and folds of the car, specifically the horizontal line that separates the clamshell hood and the lower front fender, nor do I like the side eyebrow shaped insert on the door. I don't like all the fake vents. I am not a fan of the three large front intakes or the stoutness of the protruding nose. I don't like the duckbill tail, the lines of the tail lights or the way the rear looks like it is frowning. I like the headlights, and I like the double bubble top. I hear bad things about A pillars in the cabin and the door height. Lack of a manual transmission really puts me off.

As far as the dimensions, I like the side profile the best, but that is about it. The fact that the wheelbase is shorter than the 86 by 4'', but the body length is longer by 6'' makes for odd looking overhangs, especially in the front; the MKIV had long overhangs too. The rear has a frown to it like I mentioned before, but in general, the rear fenders and rear lid are too low compared to the MKIV Supra and 86; both of those cars have their rears up higher than their hoods. Because of that, they look more muscular. The MKV Supra looks like its rear is droopy or squatted.

With all that said, the car seems made for wide body kits because I am normally not a huge fan, but it is much improved with the aftermarket treatment. A subtle lip for the duckbill spoiler on like the Speed Hunter kit would be nice. Wider fenders break up the frown and fix the front fenders.
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i don't believe you can. correct me if im wrong, @ichitaka05, but what you see is what you get when it comes to the 2.0
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