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GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) General topics for the GR86 second-gen 86


View Poll Results: How would you rate the design of the 2nd gen 86? 1 lowest & 5 highest
1 10 3.86%
2 17 6.56%
3 49 18.92%
4 113 43.63%
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Old 04-17-2021, 01:45 AM   #379
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2nd gen looking really sharp! really love how they took the mushy look of the facelift 86 and made every line and shape cleaner and more defined! the car just looks more toned and with purpose (like getting rid of the fake fender vent from the last gen)! i really like how crisp the exaggerated lines like the side skirt and the line on the front fenders above the vent are and love the overall more geometric evolution the car has taken! while the design def feels more generic compared to 1st gen, and it isnt as unique as 1st having drawn influences from lexus, i still think it's a very well executed, handsome, up to date design!
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Very nice side-by-side comparison that highlights the differences between the two generations.

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Front and rear of first generation emphasizes a "Wide & Low" stance. This is changed in new generation, partly because of the higher front end and furthermore because of an ugly rear design.

Rear quarter panel is entirely changed. Original car followed a more dedicated sports car chassis look. Again this is lost and it reminds now trying to imitate a sporty look using a mass-produced chassis by oversizing front and rear wheel fenders.


Overall, I would say that they made a quick down and dirty "improvement" just because they were contracted to do so and the passion of the first version is gone.
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Very nice side-by-side comparison that highlights the differences between the two generations.

A few comments:

Front and rear of first generation emphasizes a "Wide & Low" stance. This is changed in new generation, partly because of the higher front end and furthermore because of an ugly rear design.

Rear quarter panel is entirely changed. Original car followed a more dedicated sports car chassis look. Again this is lost and it reminds now trying to imitate a sporty look using a mass-produced chassis by oversizing front and rear wheel fenders.


Overall, I would say that they made a quick down and dirty "improvement" just because they were contracted to do so and the passion of the first version is gone.
This difference could be caused by focal length and distance from subject.
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This difference could be caused by focal length and distance from subject.
Yes I thought about it, but you can see clearly the difference of the rear quarter panel in this video (around 0:34 - 0:36). They made it smaller and enlarged the wheel fenders.

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Yes I thought about it, but you can see clearly the difference of the rear quarter panel in this video (around 0:34 - 0:36). They made it smaller and enlarged the wheel fenders.

For sure we need to see it from live.

Something similar happened with new Mazda 3, where you had very different perception of the C pillar from photo to live.
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Front and rear of first generation emphasizes a "Wide & Low" stance. This is changed in new generation, partly because of the higher front end and furthermore because of an ugly rear design.
New front end looks lower to me. I believe the 0.4" lower height is from lowering the whole platform that amount, but just a theory. For sure without the fender bumps, the fenders are lower over the wheels. Dunno why some think it looks *higher*. But not gonna trouble meself to do photo analysis!

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passion of the first version is gone.
Gonna disagree here as well. I think it's a very well-executed design, looks to me like a LOT of loving care and attention to details. Of course no design appeals to EVERYone, but I like it as much as the 1st gen, which took a while to grow on me.

addendum: I forgot I was in the GR86 forum! I actually like the 1st-gen FR-S front bumper better, but the new GR86 front is a huge improvement over the current model!

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Gonna disagree here as well. I think it's a very well-executed design, looks to me like a LOT of loving care and attention to details. Of course no design appeals to EVERYone, but I like it as much as the 1st gen, which took a while to grow on me.

Going to agree with Zdan since the Gen2 will be MY first version and I'm sure I'll be very passionate with it. May have to put plastic slipcovers over the seats.....
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actually got myself a passionometer from amazon last week and good thing too 'cause i scanned those very same photos for an accurate passion reading it and it said this thing got some passion! came with blue ms paint lined analysis and everything



edit: did wanna mention though that the new interior is kinda boring looking and my passionometer did get some funny readings of pictures of them!
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For sure we need to see it from live.

Something similar happened with new Mazda 3, where you had very different perception of the C pillar from photo to live.
Yes true. This is based ONLY on media information posted till now. Although, I can hardly believe that all of them have an issue of focal length and distance from subject.

Until now it looks that first generation C pillar has changed to a more industrial ordinary design.
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Going to agree with Zdan since the Gen2 will be MY first version and I'm sure I'll be very passionate with it. May have to put plastic slipcovers over the seats.....
Don't get me wrong. I like the fact that first generation was not a one time show, but continued to a next generation. I agree that we needed this car instead of getting cancelled like every other thing in the world culture today.

However, this doesn't mean that I should not have a critical mind and say that I like EVERYTHING on this generation like some people are saying. I believe that in certain areas it is really an improvement, but as all things in life you have to make in other areas compromises.
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I know it's unlikely, but I hope they have some good color choices. Cars have become so dull, and this screams out for some better options. I'm not asking for a full vintage MOPAR palette here - just something beyond the usual black, dark gray, dark blue, red, silver and white.

I'd pick any of these (I threw the metallic brown in there because I think that's be a pretty cool retro nod to the early Celica color options)

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I know it's unlikely, but I hope they have some good color choices. Cars have become so dull, and this screams out for some better options. I'm not asking for a full vintage MOPAR palette here - just something beyond the usual black, dark gray, dark blue, red, silver and white.

I'd pick any of these (I threw the metallic brown in there because I think that's be a pretty cool retro nod to the early Celica color options)


I’d take a purple one in a heartbeat
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I’d take a purple one in a heartbeat
I've noticed a trend with toyota that they offer bright and non-normal colors the first 2 years of production, and then drop to the normal silver, black, white, dark red, dark blue colors after that.
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