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BRZ Second-Gen (2022+) -- General Topics General topics for the second-gen BRZ


View Poll Results: How would you rate the design of the 2nd gen? 1 lowest & 5 highest
1 19 7.20%
2 25 9.47%
3 62 23.48%
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:03 PM   #141
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Way more Honda Civic-ish than I'd imagined it would be. As soon as I saw the taillamps I couldn't unsee all the Civic-ish styling cues. Not a complaint per se, however, any fears of buyer's remorse I had for buying a 2020 were all for naught.
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:05 PM   #142
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Just a rendering, but I think Toyota's version will address the front bumper complaints.


seems accurate if you compare it too the camo test car.

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Old 11-18-2020, 12:11 PM   #143
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Some Ferraris.

Theres alot of cars with a similar looking fascia.
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:17 PM   #144
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Only two seats. Also rules out the Supra.
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New motor means let's repeat the 2013 valve spring fun one more time!
I thought one of the big positives was that they would be using beehive valvesprings?
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Old 11-18-2020, 12:21 PM   #146
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Theres alot of cars with a similar looking fascia.
Call me crazy.



My first thought was Ferrari Roma. Second was Viper.
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some more interior pics









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Way more Honda Civic-ish than I'd imagined it would be. As soon as I saw the taillamps I couldn't unsee all the Civic-ish styling cues. Not a complaint per se, however, any fears of buyer's remorse I had for buying a 2020 were all for naught.
Similar tail lights are pretty much the new standard across the Subaru line up so they were not a surprise to me at all.


The overall effect is not really Civic like in my eyes but more standardized Subaru cues.


The sizes vary but the design remains the same.





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I'd like to know if they fixed the most annoying thing about the interior ever:
The fact that the sliding seats don't have any sort of ratchet/locking mechanism to return them to their last setting (or at least hold them so they don't slam into your ribs when you're reaching into the backseat to load/unload) was a big oversight in terms of daily usage - it's something that my buddy's 1988 EF Civic hatchback already had....
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2.4L engine... time for me to get back in to a 240... I mean BRZ!

Also, my first thought was the rear end looks incredibly like a Z4.
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While everyone's oohing and aahing about the nice looking seats, which are an attractive update of the foam mold of the excellent Scion and do look nice... I'm more interested to see those door rails, with 50% more rigidity one way and even more the other. The high strength steel is on the topside, where weight savings is most important.
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I thought one of the big positives was that they would be using beehive valvesprings?
First model years always have bugs. We'll see what bugs this one has in a couple of years.
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I like the interior better, especially the center console and stack.
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Parts cost money. New parts cost more money. The aluminum roof alone adds costs. Those formed skirts add cost. The ducting all adds costs. Sure they can wiggle things around but it will cost more to build. More cost to build means more price to sell. Unless of course they are willing to take a beating on them but something tells me they won't this time around. The price IS going to go up across the board.

Engineers figure out how to make things less expensive when they iterate designs. They could simplify the processing of any number of parts or assembly processes to basically cover for higher cost of other components. They can also decontent certain things that customers don’t find valuable to make room in the budget for things people do value. If they figured out how to use common parts from an existing product, they can reduce overall cost there.

I’ve literally been in benchmarking activities on new automotive production projects where we have done those exact things. Our cost reduction activity doesn’t change what we charge for the car, though. The price of the car is market driven. We get a cost target for our unit and we make it happen through process reduction, automation, and feedback to designers that could allow us to build it cheaper but achieve the same function targets. If we can get beyond that cost target, great, a pat on the back for the team.


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