Do I need to be extra careful when shifting 1-2 in cold? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

radroach · 11-03-2021, 10:42 AM

@lapsio When I'm trying to get into 1st quickly, say I roll to a stoplight at 1-5 mph, I press the gear lever towards 1st gear two times. The first time you try, it won't go in but you might feel it slow down the counter shaft. Press it into gear the second time and it should go in.

Another mention is that improving my driveline mounts (whiteline inserts) down the entire line, and then adjusting my clutch engagement point fixed most of my shifting issues.

Ultramaroon · 11-03-2021, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by radroach

@lapsio When I'm trying to get into 1st quickly, say I roll to a stoplight at 1-5 mph, I press the gear lever towards 1st gear two times. The first time you try, it won't go in but you might feel it slow down the counter shaft. Press it into gear the second time and it should go in.

Another mention is that improving my driveline mounts (whiteline inserts) down the entire line, and then adjusting my clutch engagement point fixed most of my shifting issues.

Leaning on the gearshift for any length of time causes undue wear on the contact surfaces of the shift fork as the syncro collar spins inside it. How much? Meh... might find out after 100 Kmi. It's probably just fine but from a best-practice standpoint, it's better to double-clutch into first on a roll. Done properly, no force required. Will actually feel like an upshift.

villainous_frx · 11-04-2021, 02:36 AM

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Leaning on the gearshift for any length of time causes undue wear on the contact surfaces of the clutch fork as the syncro collar spins inside it. How much? Meh... might find out after 100 Kmi. It's probably just fine but from a best-practice standpoint, it's better to double-clutch into first on a roll. Done properly, no force required. Will actually feel like an upshift.

150k miles and still goin strong in my car. As with any, Subaru it's just a luck of the draw

Ultramaroon · 11-04-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by villainous_frx

150k miles and still goin strong in my car. As with any, Subaru it's just a luck of the draw

Nature vs nurture. Some are built/designed more stoutly than others but anything can be rekt.

Best practices are best.

Tcoat · 11-04-2021, 04:27 PM

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150k miles and still goin strong in my car. As with any, Subaru it's just a luck of the draw

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Nature vs nurture. Some are built/designed more stoutly than others but anything can be rekt.

Best practices are best.

And it had 120K without ever seeing a double clutch shift.

Ultramaroon · 11-04-2021, 05:57 PM

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And it had 120K without ever seeing a double clutch shift.

What's your point?

Tcoat · 11-04-2021, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

What's your point?

That they can stand up fine without double clutching.

Ultramaroon · 11-04-2021, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

That they can stand up fine without double clutching.

Yup. Never said that they couldn't.

villainous_frx · 11-04-2021, 06:47 PM

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And it had 120K without ever seeing a double clutch shift.

Car eats throwout bearings though, I swear I heard some squeaking as I loaded it onto the tow truck :/.
Transmission and diff drain plugs both come out with minimal if any metal on it, and the fluid still looks good enough for street use.

PenGun · 11-04-2021, 08:13 PM

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That they can stand up fine without double clutching.

I double clutch every downshift. I don't think about it, its how you do that.

You can do all kinds of things that won't kill the car, but should you???

Ultramaroon · 11-04-2021, 08:17 PM

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I double clutch every downshift. I don't think about it, its how you do that.

You can do all kinds of things that won't kill the car, but should you???

_sigh_ Southern Canadians

Tcoat · 11-04-2021, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PenGun

I double clutch every downshift. I don't think about it, its how you do that.

You can do all kinds of things that won't kill the car, but should you???

It doesn't need a double clutch. It isn't a 1950 Willys Jeep.

Tcoat · 11-04-2021, 08:32 PM

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Yup. Never said that they couldn't.

See I knew it was coming from somebody!

Remember there are people that think a certain movie is a driving documentary.

villainous_frx · 11-04-2021, 08:39 PM

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Remember there are people that think a certain movie is a driving documentary.

Is it not?

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radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	@lapsio When I'm trying to get into 1st quickly, say I roll to a stoplight at 1-5 mph, I press the gear lever towards 1st gear two times. The first time you try, it won't go in but you might feel it slow down the counter shaft. Press it into gear the second time and it should go in. Another mention is that improving my driveline mounts (whiteline inserts) down the entire line, and then adjusting my clutch engagement point fixed most of my shifting issues.

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