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Old 08-01-2014, 09:58 AM   #99
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Actually I'm not super happy with the sound of the FR-S above 5K-- it sounds pretty thrashy. Do aftermarket exhausts make it sound better?
Allow me to direct you to this thread. A lot of youtube videos with a lot of different exhaust setups. It's a great tool.

These cars are weird with their exhausts. There are two cats in the system, one in the header and one in the front pipe. Changing the header for a better-designed, catless header will free up a fair amount of power, with a little cost. The cats remove most of the raspy note from the exhaust. I think it's better to leave one cat in the system, just for that purpose. And so it doesn't smell bad.

There is also a resonator in the front pipe. It helps to smooth out, quiet, and deepen the tone a little. Not vital, but depending on how you like your exhaust note, it can be useful. It also helps to quiet any exhaust drone there may be.

The muffler is just a muffler. The short, straight-through mufflers right at the exhaust tip will sound loud and blatty. The larger mufflers will be quieter and smoother.

If you want something deep and nice, but quiet when you're not getting on it, the two catbacks that are regarded as the quietest are the Perrin resonated and the Invidia Q300.
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Another car that I would love to get my hands on.

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Id probably go with an Exige or Elise if I sold my FR-S
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I have my eyes set on a F80 M3.
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the next cayman looks promising.

"Horsepower reportedly ranges from 210 hp for the 1.6-liter, to 286 hp for the 2.0-liter, with the range topped-off by a 360 hp 2.5-liter engine. The 2.0-liter and 2.5-liter will produce 295 lb-ft and 347 lb-ft of torque"
http://wot.motortrend.com/1406_we_he...10_360_hp.html

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[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1Yr3DiNOig"]Do these Boxster and Cayman hide a 4-cylinder under their hood? - YouTube[/ame]

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I dream of finding a super clean Fiat Dino Spider. :-)

Or a 124 coupe.

Or a Lancia Fulvia.

Or a Delta Integrale.

They'd all be heaps more fun than a new Ferrari anyway. You can speed like a madman on public roads in old Italian cars and the cops just smile and wave. (Ask me how I know!)
Sir you got your self a very nice list of car. Congrats!!
Is it not fair what I'm about to ask (due to technology) but how did this cars compare with the FRS/BRZ? I have drive the FIAT 124 (like 20 years ago) and it was a blast, just enough of everything to have a very fun experience. It was my first car (my first sport car) but only have it for a couple of week before get grounded... Reckless teenagers!!! Anyway ended with a aut pickup 4x4... Then the 124 look like a super car.

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Actually I'm not super happy with the sound of the FR-S above 5K-- it sounds pretty thrashy. Do aftermarket exhausts make it sound better?[/QUOTE]

If you allow my to suggest an intake + tune! that was my second mod and by far the best sound of the car! It begs to keep it >5k, it is music! But don't expect it to run it won't.
After my first cars die, the second one went with FI, headers and exhaust (with the supportive mods that it needs to last... Longer) sounds good, but never as the intake + tune, it runs way faster than NA but maybe we don't need to go faster...
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Sir you got your self a very nice list of car. Congrats!!
Is it not fair what I'm about to ask (due to technology) but how did this cars compare with the FRS/BRZ? I have drive the FIAT 124 (like 20 years ago) and it was a blast, just enough of everything to have a very fun experience. It was my first car (my first sport car) but only have it for a couple of week before get grounded... Reckless teenagers!!! Anyway ended with a aut pickup 4x4... Then the 124 look like a super car.
Well thank you!

Looking back, it was just dumb luck. The first car that I ever bought with my own money was a little white '77 Celica coupe in 2001 for $1k when I was a Junior in high school. That was the beginning of my love for small Toyotas...

The only car that would be fair for me to compare was my little 1970 Fiat Spider, as that's the only one that I ever restored and upgraded properly. In terms of FUN and HANDLING, it was the best car I've ever owned, and I miss it badly. When I say that it handled the best, I'm talking about the progressive way in which the back end kicked out. I drove that Fiat harder than I've ever driven anything in my life, and I always knew to the INCH, how far the back would slide out and how much throttle I needed to give it to get it there. You could drift a roundabout all day long, and because it looked so happy doing it, no one ever seemed to mind. Not once did I ever find myself in an uncontrolled slide. These cars, set up properly, have perfect balance, and track like a tail-happy dart to a dartboard. Surprisingly, the ride was still excellent.

Fiat Spiders all came with DOHC motors, timing belts and all-round disc brakes.
My 1970 Spider was red with a black interior and someone had already fitted it with the larger 1800cc DOHC from a '74 and a 32/36 Webber. I paid $4200 for it in 2010 with 48k original miles on it. The 1970 model year had a flat hood and small chrome bumpers.

I found a set of (magnesium) Cromadora CD-3's and had them powder coated "sparkle silver" and wrapped in Kumho KR21's.

I swapped out all the suspension and replaced it with performance suspension from International Auto Parts including springs, shocks, sway bars and polyurethane bushings.

IAP header and ANSA racing exhaust.

IAP radiator, heater core and all cooling system hoses.

I have to give all the credit to Northwest European Autoworks here in Bellingham for performing all the work and tuning that little car to perfection.

Basically I just can't say enough good things about those Fiat Spiders. They are SO cheap to run, and they're surprisingly sophisticated. The classic Celicas are beautiful and bulletproof, but I never replaced any suspension or modified them as extensively as I did the Fiat. My Celicas drove like trucks by comparison, but it's just not really a fair test.

I only replaced wheels and tires on my '92 MR2. That car, being mid-engine, was terrifying to drive at the limit. It handled great up to that last 5%, but you'd be just as likely to drift it a few inches as send it into an uncontrolled slide. That torquey little motor was great, but it wasn't a car I could push to the limit safely. But then, possibly some of that was due to it's tired twenty-year-old suspension. It's impossible for me to know.

Our Twins are easily the best-handling new cars I've ever driven. Somehow Toyota and Subaru found a way to make these cars stay flat in corners but still be progressive at the limit. All my old cars had body roll. They were fun and predictable at low speeds, but the Twins sort of take that fun old-car driving experience and bring it into the 21st century.

In my own mind, this is exactly what I looked like, driving my little Fiat...
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Great video @NWFRS
Literally steering that car from the rear end.
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I'd rather like to think FT86 owners are future Porsche GT3 owners..(997 GT3 RS 4.0 of course :P )
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:57 AM   #109
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@NWFRS nice video! I think that's how I see my self driving Lol
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:55 AM   #110
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Yea I think the much more likely option will be the Porsche.
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I plan on eventually owning an Atom. but then again, i'm all about power/weight, and having fun. why drive if you can't enjoy it? that's my thoughts on it
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My dream super car is a station wagon:

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...-E/model-E63SP

577hp
190mph top end

Good for bringing the kids to school....
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