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Tcoat · 05-12-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tomm.brz

are you jelly that you don t have 194 whp and a perceived power of 280hp Tcoat? jellyness is an evil monster

Nope. If I wanted more I would have more. It would happen without fanfare and any claims I made would be documented through legitimate and accepted test procedures. This would include before and after each change

nikitopo · 05-12-2018, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nope. If I wanted more I would have more. It would happen without fanfare and any claims I made would be documented through legitimate and accepted test procedures. This would include before and after each change.

This is one method, but it is not the only one. You cannot ignore acceleration figures, lap time improvements or other ways of measurements. If for example you do an engine change and the car does much better on a track is it just your mind? Let's be a bit serious please ...

Spuds · 05-12-2018, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo

This is one method, but it is not the only one. You cannot ignore acceleration figures, lap time improvements or other ways of measurements. If for example you do an engine change and the car does much better on a track is it just your mind? Let's be a bit serious please ...

Alright, please tell me another method of measuring performance increase or decrease of something that does not include a comparison to an original baseline.

tomm.brz · 05-12-2018, 04:26 PM

but you didnt change an engine part and you arent tracking it in a lap. you want to compare a straight acceleration and see what the pulleys are contributing for. therefore you need to do a before and after with stock pulleys and aftermarket pulleys and see the difference.
Not requiring other people to do your crazy test 42-103 km/h since you well know you are basically in the 1% of the few people that change the fd to a torque-sucker 3.7, and even if i could do the test (because my car reaches 103 km/h if i use 7650 rpm limit instead of the 7550 i use now because i dont really care to reach so high rpms) i have better things to do
and reading that you think 194 whp with your car is an accurate statement of you care (tip: it is not.) just makes me more willing to not do it
you should follow the good advices people are giving to you and do proper tests to see if your pulleys are giving you real acceleration gains

Tcoat · 05-12-2018, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nikitopo

This is one method, but it is not the only one. You cannot ignore acceleration figures, lap time improvements or other ways of measurements. If for example you do an engine change and the car does much better on a track is it just your mind? Let's be a bit serious please ...

Lap times are a horrible measure of changes in performance. Same weather conditions, exact same line on every pass, tire wear, did the driver have an extra burrito for breakfast and is a bit sluggish and a few dozen other possible variables come into play. Acceleration figures taken without controlled conditions are worse than none st all. I am completely serious on this.

tomm.brz · 05-12-2018, 05:34 PM

i ask myself if you are serious about if there are really people who have burritos as breakfast..

ok i ll stop the ot's..

Tcoat · 05-12-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tomm.brz

i ask myself if you are serious about if there are really people who have burritos as breakfast..

ok i ll stop the ot's..

Actually pretty common here.

Spuds · 05-12-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tomm.brz

i ask myself if you are serious about if there are really people who have burritos as breakfast..

ok i ll stop the ot's..

Lol bet you didn't know breakfast pizza was a thing either.

weederr33 · 05-12-2018, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Lol bet you didn't know breakfast pizza was a thing either.

One of the best conceptions of mankind

D_Thissen · 05-12-2018, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Lol bet you didn't know breakfast pizza was a thing either.

Where has that been all my life?!

NoHaveMSG · 05-12-2018, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tomm.brz

i ask myself if you are serious about if there are really people who have burritos as breakfast..

ok i ll stop the ot's..

You must not be familiar with North American cuisine..... if you can mix it with eggs, it counts as breakfast.

Spuds · 05-12-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen

Where has that been all my life?!

'Murica! Idk where else had it but it was a thing in upstate NY when I was there. Never really my thing though.

Spuds · 05-12-2018, 06:57 PM

I think this thread has stumbled on to something. Eating a good breakfast is indeed the most basic of mods, one that all experts can agree will improve performance. Lap times will improve, launches will be on point, and fastness will get ... faster. I mean, it's even got "fast" in the name right?

Good job everyone! Max blast kudos all around!

Spuds · 05-12-2018, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ERA

Alright, that was mildly entertaining. Dumb, but entertaining.

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05-12-2018, 04:26 PM	#46
tomm.brz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: brz 2017 hksv2 Location: italy Posts: 2,215 Thanks: 504 Thanked 1,080 Times in 783 Posts Mentioned: 65 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	but you didnt change an engine part and you arent tracking it in a lap. you want to compare a straight acceleration and see what the pulleys are contributing for. therefore you need to do a before and after with stock pulleys and aftermarket pulleys and see the difference. Not requiring other people to do your crazy test 42-103 km/h since you well know you are basically in the 1% of the few people that change the fd to a torque-sucker 3.7, and even if i could do the test (because my car reaches 103 km/h if i use 7650 rpm limit instead of the 7550 i use now because i dont really care to reach so high rpms) i have better things to do and reading that you think 194 whp with your car is an accurate statement of you care (tip: it is not.) just makes me more willing to not do it you should follow the good advices people are giving to you and do proper tests to see if your pulleys are giving you real acceleration gains

05-12-2018, 05:34 PM	#48
tomm.brz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: brz 2017 hksv2 Location: italy Posts: 2,215 Thanks: 504 Thanked 1,080 Times in 783 Posts Mentioned: 65 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i ask myself if you are serious about if there are really people who have burritos as breakfast.. ok i ll stop the ot's..

05-12-2018, 06:57 PM	#55
Spuds The Dictater Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS Location: MD, USA Posts: 9,517 Thanks: 26,385 Thanked 12,541 Times in 6,211 Posts Mentioned: 87 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think this thread has stumbled on to something. Eating a good breakfast is indeed the most basic of mods, one that all experts can agree will improve performance. Lap times will improve, launches will be on point, and fastness will get ... faster. I mean, it's even got "fast" in the name right? Good job everyone! Max blast kudos all around!

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