Wheel hub bearing life expectancy? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Muskoka800 · 02-04-2024, 10:23 PM

Any insights regarding front &/or rear wheel hub durability in track driven 86’s using 200 tw tires and improved suspension with high camber (-5,-2)?
And, is there a hub which would be better than an OEM replacement?

Pat · 02-05-2024, 09:12 AM

Mine all lasted more than 100,000 mi.

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whataboutbob · 02-05-2024, 08:23 PM

I preemptively replaced my rears about 110K, need to check my fronts for slop at some point, at about 128K on those.

NoHaveMSG · 02-05-2024, 10:49 PM

OEM worked best for me. I tried a couple off brands I’ve been through a handful of fronts and one rear.

RedReplicant · 02-06-2024, 11:02 AM

I lost the front left at like 33k miles on the chassis so I replaced it with a Timken. That one lasted about ten events before making the tell-tale marbles in hollow can noise when spinning so I replaced it with a Centric. Centric has been fine for about 30 events now.

I got a good deal on OEM fronts so I currently carry an OEM front and an OEM rear as spares.

Muskoka800 · 02-06-2024, 11:43 AM

Thanks, and keep the info coming folks!
I’m only at ~86,000 kl (~53,000 miles) mostly DD so may be good for some time.

cmiovino · 02-06-2024, 01:25 PM

I don't want to jinx myself, but I'm at ~43k miles on a 2017 with mainly heavy autocross usage. Probably about 665 autocross runs from my records (about 110 events). 200TW tires, stock suspension, stock wheels/offset. Wheel bearings appear to be still just fine.

SuperSub7 · 02-06-2024, 07:52 PM

lost my rear hub at 33k miles and replaced it.

NoHaveMSG · 02-07-2024, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmiovino

I don't want to jinx myself, but I'm at ~43k miles on a 2017 with mainly heavy autocross usage. Probably about 665 autocross runs from my records (about 110 events). 200TW tires, stock suspension, stock wheels/offset. Wheel bearings appear to be still just fine.

I’ve had a bad front sitting on my bench as a paperweight I have been meaning to cut in half for years. I am kind of curious what the bearing size is and if the grease just isn’t up to snuff. It seems like track cars kill them a lot faster.

ZDan · 02-07-2024, 09:13 AM

The fronts on my 2017 only lasted one track season, 12 track days! Had them replaced under warranty

Setup that year wasn't great, stock struts and lower springs combined with camber plates kind of over-lowered the front such that it was on the front bump stops just sitting. Tremendously overloaded the outside front in cornering...

86league · 02-07-2024, 11:18 AM

I got 50k and 30+ track weekends on my 2013 before the fronts needed replacing. The 2020 only went 11k and maybe 8 weekends before a rear was done, and both fronts followed shortly after at about 15k and maybe 3 additional weekends. Friend went ~5 years and 40+ (?) weekends on a 2019 before needing a rear. So, it it's pretty variable.

I think with lots of camber, 200tw tires, and driving to the limits of the car -- 8 weekends is unexpectedly early, but 30 or 40 weekends is overly optimistic.

Those were all OEM and street-driven as well as track. How many hard hits from curbs/potholes/etc each took is sort of impossible to know.

RedReplicant · 02-07-2024, 11:38 AM

Dropping wheels hard has been the number one killer of wheel bearings across track cars for me. Not the normal curb hits, the ones that make you wonder if half the car broke off.

CSG Mike · 02-08-2024, 08:46 PM

Wheel bearings are not a normal replacement item for this platform, and strictly "as needed". It's not common without reason.

jflogerzi · 02-08-2024, 10:33 PM

90k 3rd owner on a modified 2013 only driven on track now. all seem good so far

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02-04-2024, 10:23 PM	#1
Muskoka800 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Release Series 2#439 Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 680 Thanks: 3 Thanked 150 Times in 123 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wheel hub bearing life expectancy? Any insights regarding front &/or rear wheel hub durability in track driven 86’s using 200 tw tires and improved suspension with high camber (-5,-2)? And, is there a hub which would be better than an OEM replacement? __________________ Edelbrock S/C with CSG 94 & 91 maps TRD Short Shifter, CTS/EvoX Brakes Ohlin’s R&T Dampers, Hotchkis F/R Bars, Blox LCA & Toe Arms 235F/245R Conti ECS on TRD/Enkei wheels (street), 245/40 sq. A052 on 17x8 720Form GTF2 wheels (track)

02-06-2024, 11:02 AM	#5
RedReplicant Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: None Location: Arizona Posts: 907 Thanks: 1,460 Thanked 1,213 Times in 516 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I lost the front left at like 33k miles on the chassis so I replaced it with a Timken. That one lasted about ten events before making the tell-tale marbles in hollow can noise when spinning so I replaced it with a Centric. Centric has been fine for about 30 events now. I got a good deal on OEM fronts so I currently carry an OEM front and an OEM rear as spares. __________________ 2015 Subaru BRZ - TT5 K24 Swap

02-06-2024, 11:43 AM	#6
Muskoka800 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Release Series 2#439 Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 680 Thanks: 3 Thanked 150 Times in 123 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks, and keep the info coming folks! I’m only at ~86,000 kl (~53,000 miles) mostly DD so may be good for some time. __________________ Edelbrock S/C with CSG 94 & 91 maps TRD Short Shifter, CTS/EvoX Brakes Ohlin’s R&T Dampers, Hotchkis F/R Bars, Blox LCA & Toe Arms 235F/245R Conti ECS on TRD/Enkei wheels (street), 245/40 sq. A052 on 17x8 720Form GTF2 wheels (track)

02-06-2024, 01:25 PM	#7
cmiovino Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP, 2004 WRX Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 347 Thanks: 16 Thanked 249 Times in 157 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't want to jinx myself, but I'm at ~43k miles on a 2017 with mainly heavy autocross usage. Probably about 665 autocross runs from my records (about 110 events). 200TW tires, stock suspension, stock wheels/offset. Wheel bearings appear to be still just fine. __________________ 2017 BRZ Limited Performance Pack - Steel Cities Region SCCA / North Hills Sports Car Club

02-07-2024, 11:38 AM	#12
RedReplicant Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: None Location: Arizona Posts: 907 Thanks: 1,460 Thanked 1,213 Times in 516 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dropping wheels hard has been the number one killer of wheel bearings across track cars for me. Not the normal curb hits, the ones that make you wonder if half the car broke off. __________________ 2015 Subaru BRZ - TT5 K24 Swap

02-06-2024, 07:52 PM	#8
SuperSub7 Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Drives: Awesome Location: Long Beach Posts: 62 Thanks: 1 Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lost my rear hub at 33k miles and replaced it.

02-07-2024, 09:13 AM	#10
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,584 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,891 Times in 2,032 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The fronts on my 2017 only lasted one track season, 12 track days! Had them replaced under warranty Setup that year wasn't great, stock struts and lower springs combined with camber plates kind of over-lowered the front such that it was on the front bump stops just sitting. Tremendously overloaded the outside front in cornering...

02-07-2024, 11:18 AM	#11
86league Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: '13 BRZ Limited Location: League City, TX Posts: 195 Thanks: 16 Thanked 100 Times in 60 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got 50k and 30+ track weekends on my 2013 before the fronts needed replacing. The 2020 only went 11k and maybe 8 weekends before a rear was done, and both fronts followed shortly after at about 15k and maybe 3 additional weekends. Friend went ~5 years and 40+ (?) weekends on a 2019 before needing a rear. So, it it's pretty variable. I think with lots of camber, 200tw tires, and driving to the limits of the car -- 8 weekends is unexpectedly early, but 30 or 40 weekends is overly optimistic. Those were all OEM and street-driven as well as track. How many hard hits from curbs/potholes/etc each took is sort of impossible to know.

02-08-2024, 08:46 PM	#13
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,531 Thanks: 8,920 Thanked 14,177 Times in 6,835 Posts Mentioned: 966 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	Wheel bearings are not a normal replacement item for this platform, and strictly "as needed". It's not common without reason.

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