New F/I option

[SnapOv3st3r]

Looks like the turbo game just grew another manufacture.

[djdnz]

Already posted:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31218

[sw20kosh]

Posted already

[nonicname]

repost!
i think that the least attractive set up.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by nonicname

repost!
i think that the least attractive set up.

Yea I missed the original post. I didn't know we were purchasing turbo setups for show cars though...lol. I enjoy results instead...

[Supermassive]

I don't want to drag this thread out, but I am waiting to see customer car results. So far almost every turbo kit makes roughly the same power at certain boost levels on the completely stock engine. This kit also has tons of piping, a longer distance from the exhaust ports to the turbo than the front mount setups, and uses a larger turbo than the quicker spooling turbos in most stage one kits. The math doesn't add up when you look at it like that, but stranger things have happened.

I will patiently wait for them to actually sell these to the public and then see what the average Joe gets from this kit before I make any real judgement about this kit.

[TyperRspec789]

Originally Posted by Supermassive

I don't want to drag this thread out, but I am waiting to see customer car results. So far almost every turbo kit makes roughly the same power at certain boost levels on the completely stock engine. This kit also has tons of piping, a longer distance from the exhaust ports to the turbo than the front mount setups, and uses a larger turbo than the quicker spooling turbos in most stage one kits. The math doesn't add up when you look at it like that, but stranger things have happened.

I will patiently wait for them to actually sell these to the public and then see what the average Joe gets from this kit before I make any real judgement about this kit.

Yeah, nothing better than 3rd party dynos to see if a turbo kit is truly proven. I personally DO NOT like this design.. But that's just my opinion.

[Supermassive]

I actually think it's neat, not my cup of tea, but it's different enough that it warrants a look at what they might be doing to make the gains they claim. I'm not the true target audience as I have made my choice of turbo kit, and love it, but I am genuinely interested in all the F/I kits.

[sw20kosh]

Their kit allows those in CA to sneak through visual. You would remove all the red charge piping and attach the stock airbox to the throttlebody and connect all the emissions stuff back to it. Turbo can stay where it is since the main cat and O2 sensor have not been touched and turbo/wastegate is hidden underneath. BAM! pass smog

[OmarGC]

^lol

[ptuning]

Originally Posted by TyperRspec789

Yeah, nothing better than 3rd party dynos to see if a turbo kit is truly proven. I personally DO NOT like this design.. But that's just my opinion.

There sure is a lot of sarcasm and hate coming from you buddy. If it makes you feel any better, I personally DO NOT like what you've done with your car. Just MY opinion.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of your own setup, but you may want to take a step back there and think before you post about other people's projects.

I too agree with third party dynos. You should bring your car to our shop for a free dyno pull. Heck, you can even stop by this weekend. We'll start your dyno pull at 2K rpms. Let's see what you end up with. Let us know by tomorrow and we'll get you in on Saturday. Cheers! :happy0180:

[ptuning]

Originally Posted by Supermassive

I actually think it's neat, not my cup of tea, but it's different enough that it warrants a look at what they might be doing to make the gains they claim. I'm not the true target audience as I have made my choice of turbo kit, and love it, but I am genuinely interested in all the F/I kits.

Thank you for your re-statement. Yeah, it's going to be hard to be a truly open-minded judge of a new setup when you already have one. Give us some time though and we'll eventually get our turbo system in the hands of the end users to review.

Nothing we're doing involves snake oil. You can either have a turbo system that has a manifold priority design or a downpipe priority design, We opted for the latter. Once we finish our prototype manifold, we'll be dyno testing them together.

[Floggin Tires]

Originally Posted by ptuning

I too agree with third party dynos. You should bring your car to our shop for a free dyno pull. Heck, you can even stop by this weekend. We'll start your dyno pull at 2K rpms. Let's see what you end up with. Let us know by tomorrow and we'll get you in on Saturday. Cheers! :happy0180:

Ooooooooooo I hear a... Dyno Challenge!

Will he accept???




That was me poking around...

...unless you two make this happen then :happy0180:

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by ptuning

There sure is a lot of sarcasm and hate coming from you buddy. If it makes you feel any better, I personally DO NOT like what you've done with your car. Just MY opinion.

There's nothing wrong with being proud of your own setup, but you may want to take a step back there and think before you post about other people's projects.

I too agree with third party dynos. You should bring your car to our shop for a free dyno pull. Heck, you can even stop by this weekend. We'll start your dyno pull at 2K rpms. Let's see what you end up with. Let us know by tomorrow and we'll get you in on Saturday. Cheers! :happy0180:

People get touchy when their expensive toys get threatened. People with turbo kits are going to be partial to the kit they bought. It is a (often subconscious) way to justify what they bought and assert that they are happy with their choice. Just human nature. It is hard to be truly impartial.

They often over look the positive aspects of new kits or dismiss them all together. For example:
-this kit mounts the heavy parts low to the ground and further back towards the center of the car.
-because of positioning there is no bleed off of heat in the engine bay and the turbo gets plenty of under-car airflow. Belts and accessories mounted at the front of the engine don't suffer.
-no added cost of a turbo manifold
-retains stock cat and O2 location (for some this is important enough to consider it )

For those still looking at FI... there is one more kit in the bull pen. Can't wait to see 3rd party dynos of this kit. Preferably on a dyno jet.