2017 Driven first impressions - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Drakiv · 08-29-2016, 08:49 PM

Fuck me dead I want that steering wheel!

Ernest72 · 08-29-2016, 09:50 PM

Multiple reviews have noticed very little difference. The butt dyno is usually biased and not reliable. It is likely incrementally better. For DD it is likely not a big change, if you are autox or tracking probably better to start your mod with a 2017, but not necessarily if you get a 2013 on the cheap.

If you are a due a new car than get a 2017, but if you like your older one, keep it.

tv4184 · 08-30-2016, 03:34 AM

Glad I ran into this thread. I wanted to see in person how the 2017 looks before committing into one. Although it seems it'll be til much later this year before you can get one with the track pack.

SuperDave · 08-30-2016, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

I wasn't talking about engine hp I was talking about torque. I think the refresh will put down better numbers, but I would be surprised if it felt substantial faster to drive.

I can't wait to test drive one though.

it's not going to feel like a supercharger has been installed, but i'm sure it'll feel zippier. I personally would like to keep the taller final drive but that's me, and this is my only car. the lower gas mileage isn't something i want.

prj3ctm4yh3m · 08-30-2016, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDave

it's not going to feel like a supercharger has been installed, but i'm sure it'll feel zippier. I personally would like to keep the taller final drive but that's me, and this is my only car. the lower gas mileage isn't something i want.

true. tho +1ing tthese tires will inevitable compensate for this.

i.e. stock OD 24.7 - 225/40-18 = 25.1. i think 225/45-17 is 25+ as well.

PollosHermanos · 08-30-2016, 02:46 PM

I dropped a friend off at my local Subie dealer today to pick up a legacy he bought and lo and behold they had a 2017 berz on the lot. It was the lesser trim package (whatever they call it now) so no cool multi-function display. I sat in it, played with a few thins and got to feel the interior bits for quality.

Thoughts:

1.) New panels material is OK. It's not a huge upgrade, or maybe even an upgrade at all. It feels a little bit nicer but there is no padding to it so it doesn't feel as premium as perhaps you might expect.

2.) Saw the steering wheel and was convinced I would have to swap it ... until I touched it. The leather wrap is OK - but again not as soft as it looks like it should be. And even bigger for me was the plastic molding at the 9-3 on the back protrudes more than the 13'-16' wheel. TO ME it was less comfortable as I couldn't close my grasp as much as I like to - others may have no issue. The new plastic on the button surround was just getting in the way.

Couple of pics ...

Yes, there is piano black:

Door panels and dash panel are now a NEW kind of fake leather but still much better than silver plastic:

and also ... I couldn't overlook the blank wheel buttons on this trim. Pretty brutal since they are so hard to overlook. My guess is that they didn't want it not to be symmetrical so maybe this was the lesser of two evils:

Zaku · 08-30-2016, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PollosHermanos

I dropped a friend off at my local Subie dealer today to pick up a legacy he bought and lo and behold they had a 2017 berz on the lot. It was the lesser trim package (whatever they call it now) so no cool multi-function display. I sat in it, played with a few thins and got to feel the interior bits for quality.

Thoughts:

1.) New panels material is OK. It's not a huge upgrade, or maybe even an upgrade at all. It feels a little bit nicer but there is no padding to it so it doesn't feel as premium as perhaps you might expect.

2.) Saw the steering wheel and was convinced I would have to swap it ... until I touched it. The leather wrap is OK - but again not as soft as it looks like it should be. And even bigger for me was the plastic molding at the 9-3 on the back protrudes more than the 13'-16' wheel. TO ME it was less comfortable as I couldn't close my grasp as much as I like to - others may have no issue. The new plastic on the button surround was just getting in the way.

Couple of pics ...

Yes, there is piano black:

Door panels and dash panel are now a NEW kind of fake leather but still much better than silver plastic:

and also ...

finally I couldn't overlook the blank wheel buttons on this trim. Pretty brutal since they are so hard to overlook. My guess is that they didn't want it not to be symetrical so maybe this was the lesser of two evils:

I'm sorry I don't know if it's just me, but your images don't work. I would really love to see the pictures. Try using another host! Thanks!

PollosHermanos · 08-30-2016, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaku

I'm sorry I don't know if it's just me, but your images don't work. I would really love to see the pictures. Try using another host! Thanks!

Now on imgur - tried originally to host through Google Photos ... no bueono.

Working?

ayau · 08-30-2016, 04:31 PM

The plastic covers are ugly. Why bother with steering wheel buttons to begin with?

goldenfri · 08-30-2016, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PollosHermanos

Now on imgur - tried originally to host through Google Photos ... no bueono.

Working?

Works now. Damn that piano black is terrible... bummed about that. Its always going to look like crap covered in fingerprints.

Fishbed77 · 08-30-2016, 05:25 PM

Quote:

2nd gear goes uo to 57 mph, not too bad eith revised gear ratio;3rd to 80 mph.

Interesting. I had always just assumed the change in gearing was to get you to 60mph in 2nd gear to make the 0-60 time look better in the car magazines - since that's what so many people get hung up on.

prj3ctm4yh3m · 08-30-2016, 05:28 PM

does anyone make CF vinyl overlay for that horrible piano black panel?

Fishbed77 · 08-30-2016, 05:35 PM

Quote:

The plastic covers are ugly. Why bother with steering wheel buttons to begin with?

Agreed. Those blank-off panels look terrible. Honesty, there is nothing about that steering wheel that is an upgrade over the previous style. If you must have buttons on the steering wheel, I always prefered the "pod-style" Nissan used to do so well:

http://images.hgmsites.net/med/2004-...00294495_m.jpg

Much less fussy, easier to reach instinctively, and when the printed lettering eventually wears of the buttons (it always does), you are not left with an ugly worn-out buttons staring you in your face.

One great thing about the original FR-S/BRZ is that (aside from the "coin tray"/ seat heater space that is easily remedied with a plaque), even the lower trim line vehicles look "complete" on the interior.

Elleteeh · 08-30-2016, 05:42 PM

Glad I didn't order a premium. Those blanks would've annoyed me to no end.

08-30-2016, 03:34 AM	#17
tv4184 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: FD / IS300 / V8 4Runner Location: The Woodlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 26 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Glad I ran into this thread. I wanted to see in person how the 2017 looks before committing into one. Although it seems it'll be til much later this year before you can get one with the track pack. __________________ Current: 2018 Tesla Model 3 // 2007 4Runner V8 // 2004 IS300 5MT // 1994 RX7 5MT SOLD: 1999 4Runner 5MT // 2018 FK8 CTR // 2007 TSX // 2007 RS4 // 1993 Accord 5MT // 2004 S2000

08-30-2016, 02:46 PM	#20
PollosHermanos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2014 SWP BRZ Limited 6SP Location: Marshfield, MA Posts: 326 Thanks: 78 Thanked 144 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I dropped a friend off at my local Subie dealer today to pick up a legacy he bought and lo and behold they had a 2017 berz on the lot. It was the lesser trim package (whatever they call it now) so no cool multi-function display. I sat in it, played with a few thins and got to feel the interior bits for quality. Thoughts: 1.) New panels material is OK. It's not a huge upgrade, or maybe even an upgrade at all. It feels a little bit nicer but there is no padding to it so it doesn't feel as premium as perhaps you might expect. 2.) Saw the steering wheel and was convinced I would have to swap it ... until I touched it. The leather wrap is OK - but again not as soft as it looks like it should be. And even bigger for me was the plastic molding at the 9-3 on the back protrudes more than the 13'-16' wheel. TO ME it was less comfortable as I couldn't close my grasp as much as I like to - others may have no issue. The new plastic on the button surround was just getting in the way. Couple of pics ... Yes, there is piano black: Door panels and dash panel are now a NEW kind of fake leather but still much better than silver plastic: and also ... I couldn't overlook the blank wheel buttons on this trim. Pretty brutal since they are so hard to overlook. My guess is that they didn't want it not to be symmetrical so maybe this was the lesser of two evils: __________________ 1990 Laser RS - Lights go up, lights go down \|\|1992 MX-6 Coupe - Hah ... no \|\| 2001 Integra GSR - Almost rice. Risotto \|\| 2003 IS300 - A nice car but no fun. \|\| 2011 Stage I GTI - Lots of fun. Would buy another 2014 BRZ - That BRZ. So hot right now. Last edited by PollosHermanos; 08-30-2016 at 04:26 PM.

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