supercharged cars in winter. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

casing · 11-29-2019, 10:16 AM

Hey all. Its starting to dip into the negatives here in canada.

Yesterday it was -10 C, and on cold start when the car does that load thing to warm up the cat, my car was making boost at idle. I doubt that's good when my oil temperature is at -10 C.

Should I look into a different tune for winter?

Edit: car is edelbrock supercharged.

soundman98 · 11-29-2019, 10:21 AM

buy a civic type r for winter duties. it's the only reasonable answer.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 11-29-2019, 10:22 AM

I've also pondered this, wanting a supercharger in future

casing · 11-29-2019, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

buy a civic type r for winter duties. it's the only reasonable answer.

Lol. Thanks I needed a good laugh.

HaXx · 11-29-2019, 10:46 AM

i feel ya, the increased revs on start up on a fi engine, but theyre not THAT high. not up at like 2.5k rpm. theres no load on the engine though. i saw a picture of a $2,500,000 Koenigsegg regera rs driving in the snow, the caption was "think about this next time you want to take your shxtbox off the road for the winter" i was like dang that steering wheel costs more than my car.

cold start rpm wont cause your engine to fail, dont sweat it. sweat tracking without an oil cooler, or doing the valve spring recall.

weederr33 · 11-29-2019, 11:29 AM

Do you have an oil cooler? You may want to consider something that will help warm the oil up quicker like the Forester XT regulator or the Jackson Racing. Otherwise, I'd say just drive it gently till everything is warmed up. Don't you Canadians have engine block warmers too? I believe Subaru offers one.

FLYFISHR · 11-29-2019, 12:07 PM

Having grown up in Edmonton, a Lower Radiator Hose Heater works much better that the standard block heater if your going with that option. It circulates warm water throughout the engine and radiator not just one spot on the block. Plus it is a lot easier to install.

Joveen · 11-29-2019, 12:09 PM

This!!

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casing · 11-29-2019, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaXx

i feel ya, the increased revs on start up on a fi engine, but theyre not THAT high. not up at like 2.5k rpm. theres no load on the engine though. i saw a picture of a $2,500,000 Koenigsegg regera rs driving in the snow, the caption was "think about this next time you want to take your shxtbox off the road for the winter" i was like dang that steering wheel costs more than my car.

cold start rpm wont cause your engine to fail, dont sweat it. sweat tracking without an oil cooler, or doing the valve spring recall.

I spun a crank bearing on my original motor so Its still in the back of my head. I'll over worry till the cows come home.

The main reason I was worried was because it wasn't even really cold outside (-10c isn't bad) and my boost gauge shows 4 psi on first start up and my xhaust is popping and banging lol. it's the -30 days I'm worried about.

JD001 · 11-29-2019, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundman98

buy a civic type r for winter duties. it's the only reasonable answer.

A Civic Type R would be a wild ride, wintery, greasy, slippery roads mixed with a FWD with 300+bhp wearing wide tyres with crazy low profiles... I think the Twin would be a better companion even if supercharged.

RToyo86 · 11-29-2019, 02:31 PM

You can always bypass the cold start idle by moving the car in gear for a second. I do it in the morning if I plan to idle before leaving for work.

JD001 · 11-29-2019, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86

You can always bypass the cold start idle by moving the car in gear for a second. I do it in the morning if I plan to idle before leaving for work.

You only 'idle' before leaving for work.. not favouring idling throughout the day??

tomm.brz · 11-29-2019, 02:44 PM

Modify the tune to reduce the cold start effect?

Ultramaroon · 11-29-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYFISHR

Having grown up in Edmonton, a Lower Radiator Hose Heater works much better that the standard block heater if your going with that option. It circulates warm water throughout the engine and radiator not just one spot on the block. Plus it is a lot easier to install.

But the thermostat is closed. The pump is only circulating fluid available via the bypass circuit. Block heater is the way to go.

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casing Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: stock Location: Canada Posts: 45 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	supercharged cars in winter. Hey all. Its starting to dip into the negatives here in canada. Yesterday it was -10 C, and on cold start when the car does that load thing to warm up the cat, my car was making boost at idle. I doubt that's good when my oil temperature is at -10 C. Should I look into a different tune for winter? Edit: car is edelbrock supercharged.

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HaXx Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Drives: jrsc_brz Location: boston Posts: 966 Thanks: 726 Thanked 675 Times in 336 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i feel ya, the increased revs on start up on a fi engine, but theyre not THAT high. not up at like 2.5k rpm. theres no load on the engine though. i saw a picture of a $2,500,000 Koenigsegg regera rs driving in the snow, the caption was "think about this next time you want to take your shxtbox off the road for the winter" i was like dang that steering wheel costs more than my car. cold start rpm wont cause your engine to fail, dont sweat it. sweat tracking without an oil cooler, or doing the valve spring recall.

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