follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-03-2023, 04:37 PM   #603
Veloist
Senior Member
 
Veloist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: ‘93 MR2, ‘22 GR86, ‘23 GR Corolla
Location: N. California
Posts: 1,525
Thanks: 700
Thanked 1,713 Times in 668 Posts
Mentioned: 75 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
The difference in the trunk floor height of the Corolla HB vs GRC is a lot smaller than one would think. Even the seats lay down completely flat in both.

Corolla HB:


GRC:

__________________
Veloist is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Veloist For This Useful Post:
fredzy (01-03-2023), WolfpackS2k (01-03-2023)
Old 01-03-2023, 04:56 PM   #604
WolfpackS2k
Senior Member
 
WolfpackS2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '12 C63 P31, '23 GRC
Location: NC
Posts: 3,200
Thanks: 2,935
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,185 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Maybe it just looks extra bad given how deep the GTI's hatch is.



(I'm well aware there's no rear diff eating up space in a GTI, but it does have a spare down there...so does a Golf R )

Quote:
That must be some quirk on how they measure it. I'm 6'1" and have a very upright seating position compared to most people. In my GR86 with correct driver seating position the back of my seat is almost touching the rear seat, literally zero leg room. In Corolla XSE hatch, same setup I had a small gap between knee and seatback pocket. So something is off with those numbers
Beats me. I'm 6'1" as well. And I don't see how anyone could sit behind me in a GRC.
__________________
Current: 2023 GRC Circuit Edition, 2012 C63 AMG P31
Past: (2) 2000 MR2 Spyder, 2017 GTI Sport, 2006 Porsche Cayman S, Supercharged 2013 BRZ-L, 2007 Honda S2000, 1992 Integra GS-R
WolfpackS2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-2023, 05:20 PM   #605
Veloist
Senior Member
 
Veloist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: ‘93 MR2, ‘22 GR86, ‘23 GR Corolla
Location: N. California
Posts: 1,525
Thanks: 700
Thanked 1,713 Times in 668 Posts
Mentioned: 75 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
No you’re right, the depth of the GTI is nice and you’d be sacrificing a chunk of vertical space. Another thing is that the trunk area of the GTI is more squared whereas Corolla HB and GRC it is diagonal, so if you have a taller box you actually have to push it into the car more.

Before my Corolla HB I had an 18 GTI. I was road cycling heavily and chose the GTI over the Corolla HB because of the trunk space.
__________________
Veloist is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Veloist For This Useful Post:
WolfpackS2k (01-04-2023)
Old 01-03-2023, 08:59 PM   #606
Kaotic Lazagna
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,926
Thanks: 3,087
Thanked 3,017 Times in 1,859 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Looks like an inch to an inch and a half considering the D ring tie-down on the side has "sunk" down (unless they used a completely different ring).
Kaotic Lazagna is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2023, 09:27 AM   #607
WolfpackS2k
Senior Member
 
WolfpackS2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '12 C63 P31, '23 GRC
Location: NC
Posts: 3,200
Thanks: 2,935
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,185 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
^^Just gonna be super annoying to lack the ability to put a medium sized cooler in the trunk.
__________________
Current: 2023 GRC Circuit Edition, 2012 C63 AMG P31
Past: (2) 2000 MR2 Spyder, 2017 GTI Sport, 2006 Porsche Cayman S, Supercharged 2013 BRZ-L, 2007 Honda S2000, 1992 Integra GS-R
WolfpackS2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2023, 10:04 AM   #608
Sasquachulator
Pavement Grey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2020 Toyota 86 GT, 2017 BMW X1
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,084
Thanks: 109
Thanked 2,223 Times in 1,205 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
The interior packaging of the TNGA platform seems to be one of its major weak spots. Every car that uses a variant of this platform (Either Toyota or Lexus), always seems to have less interior room than its predecessor and competition.
And its not helped by the more swoopy design elements that Toyota has been employing (lowered roofline = less headroom, more aerodynamic/sportier design elements = takes away cargo space).

One of the knocks that the Corolla hatch had when it first came out was that it was less roomy and smaller cargo space than the Auris/Scion iM/Corolla iM it was meant to replace.

the Lexus UX has space complaints and even the new Prius is smaller inside than its predecessor (although i think that has more to do with the design which is far more low/wedge than the oddball looking Prius before it)

It does make me wonder what the hell Toyota has been doing with their interior space....my BMW X1 is pretty damn roomy inside and out and it competes with the UX, which annihilates it in space. The NX is more comparable spacewise and thats a size class up.
Sasquachulator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2023, 11:03 AM   #609
Kaotic Lazagna
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: GR Corolla
Location: Lathrop, CA
Posts: 4,926
Thanks: 3,087
Thanked 3,017 Times in 1,859 Posts
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k View Post
^^Just gonna be super annoying to lack the ability to put a medium sized cooler in the trunk.
It won't fit a cooler?
Kaotic Lazagna is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2023, 01:06 PM   #610
WolfpackS2k
Senior Member
 
WolfpackS2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '12 C63 P31, '23 GRC
Location: NC
Posts: 3,200
Thanks: 2,935
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,185 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
My medium size one (24 can size) fits under the cover in the GTI's hatch with less than a inch to spare. In a Corolla HB, I'm guessing it's too tall and also too deep (prob hits the tailgate). I mean I will just buy one that works (soft?) but a medium sized cooler isn't exactly large. I'll test fit it the next time I see the Core owner around here, lol
__________________
Current: 2023 GRC Circuit Edition, 2012 C63 AMG P31
Past: (2) 2000 MR2 Spyder, 2017 GTI Sport, 2006 Porsche Cayman S, Supercharged 2013 BRZ-L, 2007 Honda S2000, 1992 Integra GS-R
WolfpackS2k is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WolfpackS2k For This Useful Post:
Kaotic Lazagna (01-04-2023)
Old 01-04-2023, 01:55 PM   #611
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,805 Times in 3,299 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Irace86.2.0 For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (01-04-2023), NoHaveMSG (01-11-2023)
Old 01-04-2023, 02:03 PM   #612
Sasquachulator
Pavement Grey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2020 Toyota 86 GT, 2017 BMW X1
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,084
Thanks: 109
Thanked 2,223 Times in 1,205 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k View Post
My medium size one (24 can size) fits under the cover in the GTI's hatch with less than a inch to spare. In a Corolla HB, I'm guessing it's too tall and also too deep (prob hits the tailgate). I mean I will just buy one that works (soft?) but a medium sized cooler isn't exactly large. I'll test fit it the next time I see the Core owner around here, lol


does this help?
Its just a regular corolla hatch but i dont imagine a GR Corolla being all that much smaller if any in terms of trunk space.
Sasquachulator is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sasquachulator For This Useful Post:
WolfpackS2k (01-04-2023)
Old 01-04-2023, 02:49 PM   #613
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,814
Thanks: 38,823
Thanked 24,939 Times in 11,376 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
GR Corolla/Type R drag race
The best point made in the entire video is that these cars lose their attractiveness because of the price. I'm just not going to pay that much for a "hot hatch". They aren't supposed to be exclusive, that isn't what they are about.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Dadhawk For This Useful Post:
Irace86.2.0 (01-04-2023), NoHaveMSG (01-11-2023), Ohio Enthusiast (01-04-2023), sftateofmind (01-06-2023), soundman98 (01-04-2023), spcmafia (01-05-2023), weederr33 (01-04-2023)
Old 01-04-2023, 02:58 PM   #614
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,326
Thanks: 4,529
Thanked 5,587 Times in 2,929 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
The best point made in the entire video is that these cars lose their attractiveness because of the price. I'm just not going to pay that much for a "hot hatch". They aren't supposed to be exclusive, that isn't what they are about.
That is the biggest factor for me. At the end of the year I'll be in the market. And although I think both of those cars are awesome, their price tags and dealer mark ups make them very unattractive. Kinda like a hot chick who is a total bitch. Makes them look fuck ugly. Which is why I'm growing fond of the nerdy less attractive girl who has a great personality (WRX).
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to weederr33 For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (01-04-2023), NoHaveMSG (01-11-2023), soundman98 (01-04-2023)
Old 01-04-2023, 03:48 PM   #615
MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Drives: what
Location: WA
Posts: 341
Thanks: 337
Thanked 278 Times in 161 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
unless you take a cooler with you all the time...take the tailgate cover off if you're just going for a weekend trip, might give you the little bit of room you need.


not that i'm in the market for this car but it is a bit of a bummer toyota doesnt quite have the interior space the mk7 does
MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2023, 09:53 PM   #616
WolfpackS2k
Senior Member
 
WolfpackS2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '12 C63 P31, '23 GRC
Location: NC
Posts: 3,200
Thanks: 2,935
Thanked 2,072 Times in 1,185 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by weederr33 View Post
That is the biggest factor for me. At the end of the year I'll be in the market. And although I think both of those cars are awesome, their price tags and dealer mark ups make them very unattractive. Kinda like a hot chick who is a total bitch. Makes them look fuck ugly. Which is why I'm growing fond of the nerdy less attractive girl who has a great personality (WRX).
The WRX is basically the same price. And in a year the ADM for the GRC/CTR will be gone. If you want one just wait. But I agree that they're barely worth the price at MSRP (then again what is comparable while costing less?).
__________________
Current: 2023 GRC Circuit Edition, 2012 C63 AMG P31
Past: (2) 2000 MR2 Spyder, 2017 GTI Sport, 2006 Porsche Cayman S, Supercharged 2013 BRZ-L, 2007 Honda S2000, 1992 Integra GS-R
WolfpackS2k is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
World Premiere of All-New Toyota GR 86 (Europe) gymratter GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) 104 09-19-2022 07:33 PM
2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback & Sedan spike021 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 399 03-28-2022 09:32 AM
2022 GR86 Premium Results @ Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2022 Competition Hachiroku GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) 13 02-12-2022 11:44 PM
The new Volkswagen ID.4 – World premiere of the fully electrically driven SUV vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 5 09-27-2020 02:40 AM
STI NBR CHALLENGE 2014 World Premiere Movie JPxM0Dz Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 0 02-03-2014 05:04 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:45 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.