FRS BRZ GT86 discontinuation?

[hmong337]

Curious what peoples opinions are as to when these cars will be discontinued.

Personally, I hope the sooner the better so they will be limited.

This guy certainly thinks not too much longer...

[campy]

They'll keep making them as long as it's still profitable to do so. Toyota and Subaru are corporations run by spreadsheets first and passion second.

I've already got mine so I don't care if they stop making them or not. Personally I'd rather they keep producing them, because that means aftermarket and replacement OEM parts will be cheaper as the market increases.

[Tcoat]

When ever it happens it was probably planned before the first one ever came off the line. Although historically there have been models discontinued before they were likely planned to be (i.e the Aztec) the majority are a completely planned event. A new model is a huge investment and it's life span is not left to the whims of consumers. So far these seem to be selling very close to the production numbers and even though sales are declining slowly there are not thousands sitting at port someplace because the dealers won't take them.
I will not even hazard a guess as to when they will stop as I am not privy to Toyota's plans and any theory I threw out would be wild speculation at best.
(Disclaimer. I am on phone and did not watch video so have no clue what was put forward)

[dem00n]

The more rare a car is, the less aftermarket it will have and less the car can develop.

This car has many niches associated with it and I'd very much like to see all of them develop further.

[drewbot]

Just make sure you buy one again before they discontinue @hmong337

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[Packofcrows]

Well 2 more years for sure that it'll be out. I don't know for 2018.

Remember the twins are not a 'real car,' so to speak. Not a 'car'-'car,' rather a project/experiment.

I hope it is discontinued so I can brag one day my car is as rare as the old AE86's.

I hope it isn't discontinued because that way more idiots will junk their cars so when I need a spare part it'll be cheaper and I wouldnt mind buying another. This time a BRZ in pearl white which I'd put in storage until my FRS began to deteriorate. Plus, if they still make 'em i'm sure in 2years i'll be able to buy one for 10k. There's already a few popping on Craigslist for 15-18k

[funwheeldrive]

I think the twins have at least 4 more years in them. The MY17 will get a exterior refresh, and the current twins as we know them will probably be dead in MY20.

[humfrz]

Well, they started making miatas around 1990 and they are still making them .... just sayen .....


humfrz

[weederr33]

Good! Do it already!!

[Mr.Impreza]

Hmmm...i have had this on my mind also. I personally thought maybe the 2016 would be the last model year, and if they were to keep making them there would be a exterior refresh for 2017 also as funwheeldrive mentioned.

Personally, i feel

100% they will discontinue this car by 2020
50% chance they will discontinue it in 2018....really depends though....lately, a lot of them are getting harder and harder to sell since almost everyone who wanted on has bought one.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

Personally, i feel

100% they will discontinue this car by 2020
50% chance they will discontinue it in 2018....really depends though....lately, a lot of them are getting harder and harder to sell since almost everyone who wanted on has bought one.

I'm pretty sure there are still countries that have waiting lists for the twins. Plus, it seems like there is a steady amount of newer models being sold in the states still.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

Hmmm...i have had this on my mind also. I personally thought maybe the 2016 would be the last model year, and if they were to keep making them there would be a exterior refresh for 2017 also as funwheeldrive mentioned.

Personally, i feel

100% they will discontinue this car by 2020
50% chance they will discontinue it in 2018....really depends though....lately, a lot of them are getting harder and harder to sell since almost everyone who wanted on has bought one.

I think there is no such thing as "everyone who wanted one has bought one". Maybe everybody that followed it through development has but not everyone. I didn't even know they existed until I was in the dealership to look at Tcs last year. There are plenty of people out there that still don't know they want one, are saving for one, will get a raise and can afford one, will get their license., etc that can and will buy. It isn't like there was a cut off point where everybody that wanted could or would buy. New car buyers are created every single day.
We get trapped into thinking that everybody that buys these are enthusiasts but the reality is that for every fanboy there are 50 or so "average" people that bought or will buy one.
Unfortunately it is the "average" buyer that may keep the car alive but kill it as we know it at the same time. As they try to widen the market they will make more and more drastic changes. These changes will probably not be the high hp more powerful ones that the enthusiasts want but more the gadget filled, easy to drive DD that the masses will buy. We have already seen this trend start with the suspension changes in the 15 and the tech goodies in the special editions and this fouls escalate as they advance the design. The model it's self could go on for 20 more years but in the next couple it could change to something we enthusiasts may not even call a twin.
Just look at the history of the Mustang. The base trim went from econobox to sports car to luxury coupe to sports car to econobox to sports car to luxury coupe and now back to sports car. Not saying that the twins will have the longevity of the Musatng just demonstrating how the manufactures will try to meet the majority of the buyers wants and needs.

[Packofcrows]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

...a lot of them are getting harder and harder to sell since almost everyone who wanted on has bought one.

Not only that, but I think it's because peeps are finally learning it is not a Mustang with 500whp and it's also not a Tofu machine like Takumi's car from Initial D that can drift for days at every turn. I mean it could, but it'd also need quite a few tune-ups and aftermarket parts. Plus, experience. <----prob biggest factor.

Friend wanted one so bad based on looks, so one day I took 'em around town, he has avoided them ever since... for one I dumped my clutch around 5k(?) accidently on a right turn in rain, and we spun out. I laughed my head off and wen't with it finishing in a small donut 480-ish. Also, he hates having no leg room in back although he is like 5'2, super skinny and allover scrawny (I call 'em monkey).

Some gals I used to work with also wanted one after seeing them in 2012(?) [Las Vegas]. It was a baby blue they fell in love with, but now that they see MPG isn't 50mpg on my car (requires premium) and it has a 'uknown' style of engine [Subaru], they are avoiding it. ...not like they even known what their own engine is.

Lastly, my co-worker took notice of how 'fake' aka plasticky it looks, plus, how 'cheap' the paint is. He also made a big deal of how the interior looks so plain. Like I care. I love plain interiors. Less to clean, no?


All of these people did enjoy how I explained the history of the twin, the enthusiast side of it, practicality and 'blank canvas' style. Unfortunately, even after explaining to them all this, their questions still consisted of:

But can it beat a SI?
But is it faster than a Mustang?
But can it do a good burnout because X car can and it's not a sports car...



At this point I recommended them a Corvette, a Mustang or a Corolla.

p.s. there was a big influx of twins being traded in here a few months back. Most swapped towards Mustangs! Not surprising.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

Not only that, but I think it's because peeps are finally learning it is not a Mustang with 500whp and it's also not a Tofu machine like Takumi's car from Initial D that can drift for days at every turn. I mean it could, but it'd also need quite a few tune-ups and aftermarket parts. Plus, experience. <----prob biggest factor.

Friend wanted one so bad based on looks, so one day I took 'em around town, he has avoided them ever since... for one I dumped my clutch around 5k(?) accidently on a right turn in rain, and we spun out. I laughed my head off and wen't with it finishing in a small donut 480-ish. Also, he hates having no leg room in back although he is like 5'2, super skinny and allover scrawny (I call 'em monkey).

Some gals I used to work with also wanted one after seeing them in 2012(?) [Las Vegas]. It was a baby blue they fell in love with, but now that they see MPG isn't 50mpg on my car (requires premium) and it has a 'uknown' style of engine [Subaru], they are avoiding it. ...not like they even known what their own engine is.

Lastly, my co-worker took notice of how 'fake' aka plasticky it looks, plus, how 'cheap' the paint is. He also made a big deal of how the interior looks so plain. Like I care. I love plain interiors. Less to clean, no?


All of these people did enjoy how I explained the history of the twin, the enthusiast side of it, practicality and 'blank canvas' style. Unfortunately, even after explaining to them all this, their questions still consisted of:

But can it beat a SI?
But is it faster than a Mustang?
But can it do a good burnout because X car can and it's not a sports car...



At this point I recommended them a Corvette, a Mustang or a Corolla.

p.s. there was a big influx of twins being traded in here a few months back. Most swapped towards Mustangs! Not surprising.

It is weird that of the hundreds (yes hundreds I am a not a shy guy) people that I have talked to about the car I have only had a handful that had any issue when I told them the power. Most figured it was plenty for "such a small car". It is also that lower power that can sell it to the average Joe. Maybe a regional dirrerence I guess.

As far as the trades we saw on here go that is a very poor indicator of what is normal. Some of those guys claimed to have 4 or 5 cars in a couple of years so it is a case of the grass is always greener or they were full of crap from the start.