Wheel lock on only one per wheel: unbalanced? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

stocktc1 · 03-23-2013, 10:28 PM

Is the weight difference of only putting one wheel lock on 1 wheel negligible or does it cause a problem like using a lab centrifuge without balancing the test tubes in it?

Would it be the cause of camber wear?

OrbitalEllipses · 03-23-2013, 10:30 PM

You should be using 5 per wheel for maximum security and theft deterrence.

mezdup · 03-23-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktc1

Is the weight difference of only putting one wheel lock on 1 wheel negligible or does it cause a problem like using a lab centrifuge without balancing the test tubes in it?

Would it be the cause of camber wear?

no, man lol. they wouldn't sell 1 per wheel wheel locks if it was bad for the car in any way. that being said, 5 per wheel is more protective and will generally look better. i also prefer not to have the keyed ones as they could wear away over time.

edit for clarity:
i prefer these:

not these:

stocktc1 · 03-23-2013, 10:37 PM

I dont really live in a high crime area but I was wondering if it causes some unbalance at high speeds. Yea, I have those ghetto ones in the bottom pic.

mezdup · 03-23-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktc1

I dont really live in a high crime area but I was wondering if it causes some unbalance at high speeds. Yea, I have those ghetto ones in the bottom pic.

nah you won't have any problems with balance. and they're not ghetto, they're perfectly fine. just if they're overtorqued constantly with like an air impact gun, you'll start to see the ridges fade. but yea if the balance thing really bothers you (and i'm 100% sure you won't have a balance issue using 1 wheel lock per wheel) then just get 5 wheel locks per wheel if you want.

neutron256 · 03-24-2013, 01:32 AM

I'm sure they are very close in weight, if not exactly the same. In addition they very close to the center of rotation where a minor imbalance has far less effect then it would close to the outer edge of the wheel.

LeeMaster · 03-24-2013, 03:10 AM

As long as you are not mix matching aluminum locks with the stock ones then you should be fine. Lighter is always better though so when in doubt go get a full 20pc set aluminum from ebay.

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Originally Posted by mezdup

i prefer these:

I have these exact ones on my Impreza for only 2 months during winter and they have already started to rust.

BRZfan · 03-24-2013, 08:37 AM

I have set of the original Subaru wheel locks (with key) as shown in the lower photo (one lock per wheel) for 15 bucks including shipping to continental U.S. (the lower 48 only).

Huehuecoyotl · 03-24-2013, 08:56 AM

try and not create imbalance

wparsons · 03-24-2013, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stocktc1

Is the weight difference of only putting one wheel lock on 1 wheel negligible or does it cause a problem like using a lab centrifuge without balancing the test tubes in it?

Would it be the cause of camber wear?

Camber wear is caused by a bad camber setting for how you drive, nothing else.

whaap · 03-24-2013, 09:17 AM

The further out from the center of the wheel that you find a difference in weight the stronger the effect will be. The difference here in weight is so slight and so close to the center of the wheel (axle) that there will not be any effect on balance.

Huehuecoyotl · 03-24-2013, 09:27 AM

Uh I can 'feel' a lock missing, so its not that slight!

wbradley · 03-24-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by whaap

The further out from the center of the wheel that you find a difference in weight the stronger the effect will be. The difference here in weight is so slight and so close to the center of the wheel (axle) that there will not be any effect on balance.

Exactly. It's at the hub so it's effect is minute.

jshadeck · 03-24-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Uh I can 'feel' a lock missing, so its not that slight!

The butt dyno is an amazing thing...

03-23-2013, 10:28 PM	#1
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neutron256 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: '13 GBS Subaru BRZ Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,030 Thanks: 680 Thanked 664 Times in 382 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'm sure they are very close in weight, if not exactly the same. In addition they very close to the center of rotation where a minor imbalance has far less effect then it would close to the outer edge of the wheel. __________________ -Fortes fortuna adiuvat (Fortune favors the bold)

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stocktc1 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: scion tc Location: socal Posts: 55 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I dont really live in a high crime area but I was wondering if it causes some unbalance at high speeds. Yea, I have those ghetto ones in the bottom pic.

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