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Old 05-07-2020, 01:21 AM   #1135
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@Irace86.2.0 has your hospital been seeing the new(er) symptoms affecting children? Sounds crazy.
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This cutie I had a crush on back in HS who was a year older just posted on Instagram today that she had it and has self-quarantined the past 14 days. She's a nurse at Stanford (IIRC) and she'd requested an antibody test I guess, but rather than finding antibodies she got a positive result, and symptoms began apparently within a day or two of getting those results.

She's super active, runs a lot, works out a lot, etc. But it sounds like she got basically a very strong flu with multiple days of ~100 degree fever among all the other symptoms. Fortunately no hospital visit.

Crazy.
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My niece's husband had a positive test about a month ago. He is an engineer, late 30's, and they live in Los Gatos. He said it was like a bad cold for 3 days.
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I don't know about you guys but wearing a mask in public has brought up a strange anxiety response I never knew I had. I traced it back to my time in the Army when my gas mask malfunctioned and basically caused me to suffocate while still letting in some of the CS gas.
Well, you almost had me going with your "not wearing a mask" comment a few posts back -

Yes, I wear a mask whenever I'm around other people, besides immediate family.

I recall back in my Army CBR training, wearing a protective mask. Step 1, dawn the mask, step 2, clear the mask. IF the mask won't clear, you got two things (or a combination) that could happen - you suffocate or get a face full of CS. As you know, that would make being waterboarded a child's game.

I recall the first time I went into a non-human primate (monkey) toxicology testing facility. I started in the "dirty room" and progressed into the "clean room" after I put on the appropriate protective wear. I mentioned to the toxicologist that these monkeys must have some pretty bad stuff going on that we have to be protected from them.

The toxicologist replied "you are suited up not because what the monkeys will give you, but what you may give the monkeys". In other words they were protecting their test animals from any outside diseases.

While we are in the lab, did you ever wonder why the technicians that were handling the monkeys wore gauntlets and face shields? Because one bite from a, fresh from the wild, rhesus monkey could give a human SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus) which, back before 1980 few people survived.

Where was I - oh, rambling again - sorry -
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Well, you almost had me going with your "not wearing a mask" comment a few posts back -

Yes, I wear a mask whenever I'm around other people, besides immediate family.

I recall back in my Army CBR training, wearing a protective mask. Step 1, dawn the mask, step 2, clear the mask. IF the mask won't clear, you got two things (or a combination) that could happen - you suffocate or get a face full of CS. As you know, that would make being waterboarded a child's game.

I recall the first time I went into a non-human primate (monkey) toxicology testing facility. I started in the "dirty room" and progressed into the "clean room" after I put on the appropriate protective wear. I mentioned to the toxicologist that these monkeys must have some pretty bad stuff going on that we have to be protected from them.

The toxicologist replied "you are suited up not because what the monkeys will give you, but what you may give the monkeys". In other words they were protecting their test animals from any outside diseases.

While we are in the lab, did you ever wonder why the technicians that were handling the monkeys wore gauntlets and face shields? Because one bite from a, fresh from the wild, rhesus monkey could give a human SIV (simian immunodeficiency virus) which, back before 1980 few people survived.

Where was I - oh, rambling again - sorry -
I figured my comment would trigger a few people haha.
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@Irace86.2.0 has your hospital been seeing the new(er) symptoms affecting children? Sounds crazy.
Our case load has been relatively small, and we havenít seen many positive COVID cases in children.

Some of those new reports are concerning.
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At least for the time being, the US military is turning away Covid-19 survivors from serving. Interesting development.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...-the-military/
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The toxicologist replied "you are suited up not because what the monkeys will give you, but what you may give the monkeys". In other words they were protecting their test animals from any outside diseases.
Another similarity... My dad retired from a place like that. I got to check it out once. They were more concerned about the rats and primates than us. Had to pass a TB test too before going in.
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ok, now that i don't understand. i haven't read anything that even implies that a recovered covid patient is any more or less susceptible to any other disease than anything else.
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ok, now that i don't understand. i haven't read anything that even implies that a recovered covid patient is any more or less susceptible to any other disease than anything else.
I believe that that has been revised to deny only people that have been hospitalized for COVID-19.

That would make a bit more sense.

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ok, now that i don't understand. i haven't read anything that even implies that a recovered covid patient is any more or less susceptible to any other disease than anything else.
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I believe that that has been revised to deny only people that have been hospitalized for COVID-19.

That would make a bit more sense.

Yeah a couple of articles I saw from various sources had the Pentagon saying it was precautionary until they can figure out what is going on longer-term.
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I believe that that has been revised to deny only people that have been hospitalized for COVID-19.

That would make a bit more sense.

but how does that make sense? if they've fully recovered, regardless of being hospitalized or through their own methods, what disadvantage does that put them at militarily speaking?

i just don't see the tactical edge benefit from either side of this. if people haven't contracted it, it's still possible they will contract it in the future. and of the people that have contracted it and recovered, my understanding is that the virus has evolved enough that they still stand a chance to contract the new strain in the future as well, but now have a built-up immunity for the previous iteration of the virus...

i was trying to read the article to see what their reasoning was, but it doesn't really say what disadvantage this poses for the military that makes such a restriction needed.
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what really concerns me is that the military is appearing to be making a ruling on data we're either not privy to, or is making an overarching ruling out of fear.

the first doesn't bode well for future recovery efforts, the second doesn't bode well for the state of our military--if the bastards that can put up with basic training and hellish war conditions are running scared, maybe even the media outcry isn't enough...
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but how does that make sense? if they've fully recovered, regardless of being hospitalized or through their own methods, what disadvantage does that put them at militarily speaking?

i just don't see the tactical edge benefit from either side of this. if people haven't contracted it, it's still possible they will contract it in the future. and of the people that have contracted it and recovered, my understanding is that the virus has evolved enough that they still stand a chance to contract the new strain in the future as well, but now have a built-up immunity for the previous iteration of the virus...

i was trying to read the article to see what their reasoning was, but it doesn't really say what disadvantage this poses for the military that makes such a restriction needed.
It's the military. They aren't going to give their reason even if they gave their reason.

They aren't desperate for people right now by my understanding, so they can pick who they want. Why take a risk on an unknown when you don't need to?
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