How to destroy an engine in 7 days: My review of FA20club.com’s services & experience - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

nelsmar · 01-20-2014, 06:44 PM

Oh yeah and the picture at the header of the OP is from my car the night it popped. Over an hour of scrubbing that bay to get all the oil off and that shit happens. Sadsf;lawjefoieawfjwefoaew *SMH* -.-

Dipstik-sportech · 01-20-2014, 06:46 PM

Yay for ADD!! Oooooo look a squirrel

The Frozen North

OmarGC · 01-20-2014, 06:51 PM

Ammonia · 01-20-2014, 06:52 PM

Wow this is mind boggling. Horrible business practices.

DAEMANO · 01-20-2014, 06:58 PM

@nelsmar - ADD whiners can bite it. Thanks for all the detail. That was one of the most informative posts I've seen on this board. Sorry about your car.

Mr.Jay · 01-20-2014, 07:02 PM

wow wtf has happened in these last couple days I havent been on

I see @Frs300 thread is gone but suddenly it seems fa20club is being more responsive but still defensive

cached a couple pages and saw what I missed out on.... yea I don't think I will ever send any money to Toni ever

nelsmar · 01-20-2014, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

wow wtf has happened in these last couple days I havent been on

I see @Frs300 thread is gone but suddenly it seems fa20club is being more responsive but still defensive

cached a couple pages and saw what I missed out on.... yea I don't think I will ever send any money to Toni ever

If you want to PM me contact information (phone, skype, something) I can fill you in privately on the rest of what you missed. I am not attempting to bash a vendor, just share my actual experience so I don't want to throw the other bits in this thread

bakerr6 · 01-20-2014, 07:11 PM

I appreciate all the detail you have taken on this post. i originally had money set aside to purchase one of these kits and was literally a week away when I had some people I spoke with behind the lines in september about their experiences with Toni.

This is why my kit is being built locally. I can tell you I would trust fullblown and really like JDL's design, but I will be staying local for this one lol

nelsmar · 01-20-2014, 07:16 PM

By popular demand: Attention Deficit Disorder Edition - Click here(Uber condensed!)

Area86 · 01-20-2014, 07:37 PM

Wow. Sorry to hear about your car. This could have easily been me. I got a tune for my Innovate kit from Toni and my car wouldn't even start on the first ROM sent. 5 revisions later after I addressed my concerns about how my car was running he said everything looks good but my car still ran like shit so I cut my losses and got a tune from Bill@delicious tuning. Hopefully this thread doesn't get deleted for the communities sake for once.

Swift · 01-20-2014, 07:52 PM

So I was amazed at the complete lack of knowledge this guy had. I am not even a tuner by any means and a wideband is a must basically. And the whole fuel pump thing and lines etc etc. my god he is an idiot. He is so lucky you don't know the mob cuz he literally would be dead about now.

Thanks for the informative post and this forum's administrators should take proper actions.

Xero-Limit · 01-20-2014, 08:00 PM

Wow...I had every intention of staying out of this, but I sincerely hope that folks don't take this as typical of "remote tuning."

Lots of us live by our reputation and this kind of scenario is detrimental to everyone. Obviously nothing to be done about it now, but understand that in any business there are all kinds of people, and for the most part the above is quite the exception.

nelsmar · 01-20-2014, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift

So I was amazed at the complete lack of knowledge this guy had. I am not even a tuner by any means and a wideband is a must basically. And the whole fuel pump thing and lines etc etc. my god he is an idiot. He is so lucky you don't know the mob cuz he literally would be dead about now.

Thanks for the informative post and this forum's administrators should take proper actions.

I am actually Sicilian. LOL fitting eh?

u/Josh · 01-20-2014, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsmar

...
So I leave you all today as being your public test dummy to test the limits of this engine. I ran my vehicle at 13-15AFR WOT, and 15-17AFR partial throttle for 12,000+ miles with forced induction before my engine failed. I must same I am fairly impressed with the FA20’s handling to poor tuning. Please lets not get this thread deleted this information needs to be available.
...

Oh and I chose 7 days in the title due to the fact I was driving like a normal human being for roughly one to two weeks. Just incase anyone wondered why I chose that title.

12,000 miles in 7 days?

01-20-2014, 06:44 PM	#29
nelsmar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,605 Thanks: 733 Thanked 2,361 Times in 1,031 Posts Mentioned: 345 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Oh yeah and the picture at the header of the OP is from my car the night it popped. Over an hour of scrubbing that bay to get all the oil off and that shit happens. Sadsf;lawjefoieawfjwefoaew SMH -.- __________________ When I grow up, I wanna be God. My flickr - *Canibeat* Local magazine scout Old Setup: Vortech Supercharged 360WHP/262WTQ @ 11.5psi My build thread - WTF happened to nelsmar's car thread

01-20-2014, 06:46 PM	#30
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yay for ADD!! Oooooo look a squirrel The Frozen North __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

01-20-2014, 06:51 PM	#31
OmarGC My FR-S has 5 gears Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FRS/280z/Tundra Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,994 Thanks: 626 Thanked 1,065 Times in 572 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	__________________ Omar GC 2JZ - 6870 - stock block - 1000whp? Instagram: 2jzus

01-20-2014, 06:52 PM	#32
Ammonia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Whiteout FRS, Audi A4, 135i (sold) Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 918 Thanks: 1,440 Thanked 567 Times in 289 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wow this is mind boggling. Horrible business practices. __________________ boooooooooooooooooost

01-20-2014, 07:02 PM	#34
Mr.Jay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: FRS :D Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 2,985 Thanks: 545 Thanked 699 Times in 438 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	wow wtf has happened in these last couple days I havent been on I see @Frs300 thread is gone but suddenly it seems fa20club is being more responsive but still defensive cached a couple pages and saw what I missed out on.... yea I don't think I will ever send any money to Toni ever __________________ Out of the FRS game

01-20-2014, 07:11 PM	#36
bakerr6 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 raven black fr-s Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 503 Thanked 443 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I appreciate all the detail you have taken on this post. i originally had money set aside to purchase one of these kits and was literally a week away when I had some people I spoke with behind the lines in september about their experiences with Toni. This is why my kit is being built locally. I can tell you I would trust fullblown and really like JDL's design, but I will be staying local for this one lol

01-20-2014, 07:16 PM	#37
nelsmar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,605 Thanks: 733 Thanked 2,361 Times in 1,031 Posts Mentioned: 345 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	By popular demand: Attention Deficit Disorder Edition - Click here(Uber condensed!) __________________ When I grow up, I wanna be God. My flickr - *Canibeat* Local magazine scout Old Setup: Vortech Supercharged 360WHP/262WTQ @ 11.5psi My build thread - WTF happened to nelsmar's car thread

01-20-2014, 07:37 PM	#38
Area86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ limited SWP Location: USA Posts: 338 Thanks: 94 Thanked 166 Times in 99 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wow. Sorry to hear about your car. This could have easily been me. I got a tune for my Innovate kit from Toni and my car wouldn't even start on the first ROM sent. 5 revisions later after I addressed my concerns about how my car was running he said everything looks good but my car still ran like shit so I cut my losses and got a tune from Bill@delicious tuning. Hopefully this thread doesn't get deleted for the communities sake for once.

01-20-2014, 07:52 PM	#39
Swift I just Drive. Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: in the womb still Location: WI/MN Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 116 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I was amazed at the complete lack of knowledge this guy had. I am not even a tuner by any means and a wideband is a must basically. And the whole fuel pump thing and lines etc etc. my god he is an idiot. He is so lucky you don't know the mob cuz he literally would be dead about now. Thanks for the informative post and this forum's administrators should take proper actions. __________________ -Waiting patiently for the right FT-86... -92' Acura Legend 5spd coupe twin turbo project

01-20-2014, 08:00 PM	#40
Xero-Limit Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: JDL Turbo FRS, 335SC BRZ (ret) Location: Lehigh Valley, PA Posts: 932 Thanks: 368 Thanked 1,547 Times in 525 Posts Mentioned: 380 Post(s) Tagged: 6 Thread(s)	Wow...I had every intention of staying out of this, but I sincerely hope that folks don't take this as typical of "remote tuning." Lots of us live by our reputation and this kind of scenario is detrimental to everyone. Obviously nothing to be done about it now, but understand that in any business there are all kinds of people, and for the most part the above is quite the exception.

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