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Old 08-11-2022, 10:43 AM   #43
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The consequences of having a forum that still runs on vbulletin lol. message board platforms from at least the previous decade have the common sense to put long quoted posts in an expandable box.
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Old 08-11-2022, 01:41 PM   #44
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why did Subaru/Toyota adopt this? Those stupid turn signals are one of the worst features in a modern BMW.
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why did Subaru/Toyota adopt this? Those stupid turn signals are one of the worst features in a modern BMW.
Probably had some leftovers from the Zupra
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Old 08-11-2022, 03:16 PM   #46
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why did Subaru/Toyota adopt this? Those stupid turn signals are one of the worst features in a modern BMW.
I think alot of manufacturers adopted this for some reason.

One of those "if it aint broke...dont fix it" situations where BMW decided whatever worked just didnt work enough.....
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My guess is a manufacturer, that BMW owns a good share of, made a bunch of a "new design" turn stalk. No one wanted them, so instead of taking a loss, BMW said, "none of our customers use the turn signal stalk, so we can put them in our cars and no one will notice."
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My guess is a manufacturer, that BMW owns a good share of, made a bunch of a "new design" turn stalk. No one wanted them, so instead of taking a loss, BMW said, "none of our customers use the turn signal stalk, so we can put them in our cars and no one will notice."
This checks out.

EDIT: and as part of the deal for the Supra engines, BMW talked Toyota into buying an absolute crapload of them citing "minimum purchase quantities".
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As Lexus owner, I can tell you these turn signals have been in use for more than a decade... I doubt it's bimmer thing. I like 'em, just like I cannot do without that cruise control stalk. Rented a Rav4 that did not have the cruise control stalk and I almost turned it in early!
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As Lexus owner, I can tell you these turn signals have been in use for more than a decade... I doubt it's bimmer thing. I like 'em, just like I cannot do without that cruise control stalk. Rented a Rav4 that did not have the cruise control stalk and I almost turned it in early!
Tat instant response cruise stalk is the best thing ever put in a car! It is in exactly the right spot to be operated wit the flick of a finger, requires zero looking down and gives real time action. I struggle with top of the wheel mounted one every single time now.
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Tat instant response cruise stalk is the best thing ever put in a car! It is in exactly the right spot to be operated wit the flick of a finger, requires zero looking down and gives real time action. I struggle with top of the wheel mounted one every single time now.
Ahh yes, the Pinnacle of Toyota KISS engineering.

That and the digital clocks.
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If it ain't broke...

…fix it until it stops working as intended
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