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Jynx · 12-19-2022, 11:30 AM

well if anyone is still following this, P0441 is a bullshit code and it was actually the leak detection pump valve assembly. has nothing to do with the purge valve, lines, or gas cap. The whole rear subframe is being dropped tomorrow to even get to it. price to fix is about 1300.

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blsfrs · 12-19-2022, 03:52 PM

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well if anyone is still following this, P0441 is a bullshit code and it was actually the leak detection pump valve assembly. has nothing to do with the purge valve, lines, or gas cap. The whole rear subframe is being dropped tomorrow to even get to it. price to fix is about 1300.

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What exactly is being repaired/replaced?

Jynx · 12-19-2022, 04:47 PM

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What exactly is being repaired/replaced?

Leak detection pump valve assembly. also referred to as the canister pump module. it is located right next to the charcoal canister.

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Tcoat · 12-20-2022, 01:45 PM

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well if anyone is still following this, P0441 is a bullshit code and it was actually the leak detection pump valve assembly. has nothing to do with the purge valve, lines, or gas cap. The whole rear subframe is being dropped tomorrow to even get to it. price to fix is about 1300.

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It has everything to do with the purge valve, lines and cap! It is the device that makes sure all those things are working right and an integral part of the system.

Jynx · 12-20-2022, 02:04 PM

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It has everything to do with the purge valve, lines and cap! It is the device that makes sure all those things are working right and an integral part of the system.

wrong. wasn't the purge valve. everyone tried to tell me it was the one under the intake. the one in the back is not a "purge valve"

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Tcoat · 12-20-2022, 02:29 PM

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wrong. wasn't the purge valve. everyone tried to tell me it was the one under the intake. the one in the back is not a "purge valve"

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Doesn't change that the test pump is a part of the whole system no matter where the purge valve is located.

Ultramaroon · 12-20-2022, 02:45 PM

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wrong. wasn't the purge valve. everyone tried to tell me it was the one under the intake. the one in the back is not a "purge valve"

"Everyone..." You didn't look at the service manual at all, did you?

Jynx · 12-20-2022, 02:46 PM

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"Everyone..." You didn't look at the service manual at all, did you?

oh i did for 3 days straight. fought 3 dealerships on it and one was finally smart enough. only took a year.

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Ultramaroon · 12-20-2022, 03:10 PM

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oh i did for 3 days straight. fought 3 dealerships on it and one was finally smart enough. only took a year.

lol... that SUCKS!

Jynx · 12-20-2022, 05:32 PM

at the moment the car is looking good but they are gonna keep testing it to make sure that this is actually it.

Jynx · 12-21-2022, 04:38 PM

haha sike, that did not fix it.

blsfrs · 12-22-2022, 11:11 AM

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Leak detection pump valve assembly. also referred to as the canister pump module. it is located right next to the charcoal canister.

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Did they replace everything? Pump, module, canister? While it was disassembled, did they smoke or pressure test all of the lines?

Jynx · 12-22-2022, 11:18 AM

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Did they replace everything? Pump, module, canister? While it was disassembled, did they smoke or pressure test all of the lines?

yes they did everything u just stated lol. now we are thinking a PCM issue because the PCM isnt even controlling the valve in the front and is only partially giving a signal to the one in the back. it just became a lot more money lmao

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Jynx · 01-03-2023, 06:59 PM

Update ~
ECU is getting checked tomorrow and may have to go the dealership to get completely replaced and reprogrammed. (if anyone is still following.)

12-19-2022, 11:30 AM	#29
Jynx Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: AZ Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 23 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Code p0441 well if anyone is still following this, P0441 is a bullshit code and it was actually the leak detection pump valve assembly. has nothing to do with the purge valve, lines, or gas cap. The whole rear subframe is being dropped tomorrow to even get to it. price to fix is about 1300. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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