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Old 12-18-2020, 09:58 AM   #1
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BRZ STi?

I know this is totally clickbait, and I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Subaru will actually build and put into a production a real BRZ STi. As has been discussed extensively in other threads, I don't think Toyota would allow it because it would encroach on Supra sales. I'm just posting this as a FYI and purely for amusement and entertainment:

https://www.thedrive.com/news/38237/...y-be-happening

Could this be some kind of 'WTF' project from a handful of insider engineers? Just for the fun of it, to see what it would be like? Since the car isn't for sale yet, it's hard to imagine this being done independently. Whatever it is, it has to have Subaru backing. Maybe the senior bosses don't even know about it (unlikely in the Japanese system).

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Old 12-18-2020, 10:15 AM   #2
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I think click-bait sites like to stir things up. However, this comment is far closer to the truth.


Altogether more likely is that the car we see here is either the new tS or STi, either of which is likely to feature performance enhancements similar to the last-gen tS, notably Brembo brakes and Sachs shocks.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:40 AM   #3
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Could be just "testing" aero add-ons to make sure they don't go flyin off at speed...
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:44 AM   #4
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Build your own BRZ STI, people have been doing it since 2013! Mine was an FRS, but I converted it to the turbo model. It was the FRS STI. Right now it's the NM edition though ( no motor) like most STIs
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Altogether more likely is that the car we see here is either the new tS or STi, either of which is likely to feature performance enhancements similar to the last-gen tS, notably Brembo brakes and Sachs shocks.
I think you're absolutely right. IF there ever is a tS or STi version of the BRZ, it will almost certainly only be cosmetic appearance changes (or maybe a 'tune' for a few extra hp).

I know a real STi or turbo version will never happen (at least not from the factory), but somewhere inside me, a tiny little part of me couldn't help but have a spark of futile excitement...
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Yea, obviously clickbait.


STI parts have always been available for the BRZ ever since the 1st-gen. But "STI" does not automatically mean "turbo". Probably more of the same as before: springs, chassis stiffening parts, muffler, hardened suspension & driveline bushings, lip kit & spoiler, brake parts & kits, dress-up items, etc.
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What do you think?
Honestly, it just looks like the are testing an eventual tS body kit and rims, that’s all. And maybe different suspension and brakes. Same as the gen 1 tS. We can guess that they will have PP/tS type appearance and handling upgrade packs sometime after launch, just like gen 1.

I don’t see any reason to think it has any skunkworks like power train upgrades at all, sadly. Love to be proven wrong, and discover this is the harbinger of a full on turbo STi model, but it seems unlikely.
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Honestly, it just looks like the are testing an eventual tS body kit and rims, that’s all. And maybe different suspension and brakes.
Brakes on this car look to be the same small-rotor sliding-caliper brakes we've seen. Hoping for a big-brake Brembo package for short money sooner rather than later!
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My vote is this is some STI aero parts like on the first gen, which could or could not be apart of a BRZ Ts. I don’t think STI will evolve into a performance platform across multiple models like BMW’s M line. The WRX STI represents Subaru’s history and AWD platform potential. The BRZ is just a side thing that is suppose to be a high revving NA, and must not impede on the STI or the Supra for Toyota, while filling a different market.
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Excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't they then camo the bumpers and skirts then and not vice versa? The sheetmetal never gets changed for those "special edition" only the snapped on parts?

I'm thinking maybe they're just doing some fine tuning/tweaking to the sheetmetal before the begin production, because really the camo parts of the car minus the trunk really hasn't change much in terms of styling other than molding to meet the new parts, so maybe some last minute slight design tweaks?

I dunno, just threw me for a loop as to why they camoed that part of the car and not the other. Additionally, doesn't make me a think a turbo is coming, the wheels and brakes largely look the same, I don't see anything that would suggest more cooling (I guess it wouldn't need it), so I dunno.
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Brakes on this car look to be the same small-rotor sliding-caliper brakes we've seen. Hoping for a big-brake Brembo package for short money sooner rather than later!
The first gen performance package had to be, for the price, one of the best and frankly most unbelievable deals in performance car history. Brembos, Sachs dampers, and wider wheels for a little over a grand!? I had liked the BRZ since introduction, but it was that deal that made me pull the trigger without hesitation in 2017. Still can’t believe it was so inexpensive.
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The first gen performance package had to be, for the price, one of the best and frankly most unbelievable deals in performance car history. Brembos, Sachs dampers, and wider wheels for a little over a grand!? I had liked the BRZ since introduction, but it was that deal that made me pull the trigger without hesitation in 2017. Still can’t believe it was so inexpensive.
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Honestly, I think it will look much better with the STI lip kit.
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