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Great video, and if you have traffic- and LEO-free roads like that to drive, Harris is no doubt right. Being a 2 day drive from those kinds of roads, other factors come more into play, like tractable power and liveability.
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In Toronto roads (generally straight line, grids, and low speed limits), I'm thinking slow-car-fast is the way to go. It's a scenario where, since I can't enjoy twisties, I'm enjoying the engagement of making each shift. I feel like I'd be a bit bored with underutilizing the car if I'm always having to upshift under 3k rpm to stay legal... Maybe I should just get a kei car....
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that's my issue with the BRZ/86.. u get no power until the higher RPMs, and ppl think u're a ricer wanting to race every single time... cops have the same perspective too (aka the twins are of the most ticketed cars in America)... it gets really, really old
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That has nothing to do with driving in the higher RPMs and says more about the drivers than the cars. You don't get speeding tickets for getting up to the limit only for going over it. https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...ts/2016498001/ https://insurify.com/insights/car-mo...-tickets-2020/
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Great points and discussion guys. I share the opinion that despite a claim I read that the 400z will be 3250lbs the real weight will be 150 more. I've never been in a Z car so maybe I'll check a current one out but I've always been turned off by sports cars that on paper have the weight and size of a GT. The new BRZ is probably the closest available thing to a perfect car for my uses but I can't get over the thought of wanting something more powerful and more special as my last sports car. That's why I'm still considering the M2 and Cayman S. The problem with those is I have difficulty justifying the cost, considering how little I drive my car (about 1500mi/yr). I want a 200lb lighter BRZ that doesn't feel like an underpowered kid's car and costs $40-45,000. Oh, and the rear glass should lift up like the Z's for loading odd size items (bike with both wheels off) while the seats are down.
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A BRZ will never be as special as an M2, just like how an M2 will never be as special as an NSX.
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Along with Civic sedans and old Neons!
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Special cars shouldn't just be a transaction waiting to happen, they should inspire you, you should know what you want without having to debate pros and cons. Budget obviously comes into play, but if you truly want something special, ask yourself what is it to you that makes these steel boxes on wheels special and I think you'll find your answer. If the cost of the M2 is so in your mind (and you can afford it), I don't think it's special enough for you.
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Well said. A used M2 is on my 'next car short list', as is an E92 M3. But if the new twins feel as special as the first gen, I'm not sure the BMWs would make it on top for me. The twins feel so much more special than they should have any right to, in a way no spec sheet or even car review can properly convey. And it won't be like that for everyone.
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It's like a few steps behind an S2000..
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