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Old 02-09-2022, 10:51 AM   #29
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What's good for GM is ...

uh, wait, wut?
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As you may have "As Seen on TV" Lyriq orders are opening up tomorrow (05/19/2022). I had signed up as a "person of interest" and received an early link today (05/18/2022) at 1PM Eastern to pre-order the car.

I put my $100 reservation down on a 500HP AWD version to be delivered "early 2023". Still have to finalize the order with the local Cadillac dealer to nail down any options and colors but at this point I'm on the list. The 500HP AWD version is a $2,000 option on the 2-wheel drive version. No brainer there.

This is my consolation prize from recognizing I would not be getting a CT5-V (or even a CTS-V) anytime soon for a reasonable price. I'm gambling that if I go through the purchase it will likely hold most it's value for at least 24 months.
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In case anyone is interested, this is the 2023 brochure. Caution, serious marketing fluff ahead.

They did add two colors. Tricolor white and Blue metallic. I'll likely go with the Blue. The car doesn't have enough black accents to make the white work. Satin Steel would be my second choice but its a good distance one. I've seen the blue on several different vehicles and its a nice color.
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Old 05-18-2022, 04:38 PM   #32
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My TV that I watched from clear across the room for 25 years was 26" diagonal.
What the actual F?
Im not a fan of this design trend.

If you look around at all the new EV products...they're ALL using this somewhat slapped on looking doublewide dash screen design theme (which seems to have taken over from the slapped on tablet look)

Even some ICE are going this route....(looking at you BMW)

Its making ALL car interiors look the same.......
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Im not a fan of this design trend.

If you look around at all the new EV products...they're ALL using this somewhat slapped on looking doublewide dash screen design theme (which seems to have taken over from the slapped on tablet look)

Even some ICE are going this route....(looking at you BMW)

Its making ALL car interiors look the same.......
I've seen the design IRL (it's the same one they are using in the Escalade). When you are in the drivers seat it looks more like a standard dash design than the pictured make it seem because you see the thinness. Sort of like when they take a picture of a car from too low and it doesn't look right because the car wasn't designed to be that way.

Just my opinion of course. I absolutely hated the way the Mach E looked internally, as well as all the Teslas. This, to me, looks like a real car. Interior shot from sort of head backseat level.
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I'm not enthused about the Prius but a well integrated electrified system can be good in any type of vehicle.
Before buying the Suzuki I did consider the current Yaris Hybrid. It's biggest attraction was its fuel consumption. One review I watched saw approx 3.5 l/100kms, 77 US mpg. Given the way I drive I wouldn't have seen that but even so given how much I dislike visiting petrol stations the car was a brief consideration.
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Talked with the dealer last night and my "preorder" is in. 500HP, AWD, Blue with Noir (dark gray) interior and 20" wheels (no 22" low profiles for me thanks). Final configuration order will be in August, with a deliver in Q1 2023.

Right now, it is not known what other options will be available, including Super Cruise. They've had to pull Super Cruise from the Escalade and the GMC Denali high level trims because of chip shortages.

I'm about 70% on the final order at this time. Some other things under consideration before full commit, including if there is any dealer tomfoolery with the price.

The FRS will stay in the stable but would likely be demoted to weekend toy since I can charge and drive the EV "for free" to work (I can charge at work for free right outside my window).

I do think it's odd that basically the only real color choice they are offering is very close to Ford Blue
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Well that went fast. Cadillac has pre-orders for the entire 2023 model (22,000 units). They are now taking persons for a waiting list.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...ve-189256.html
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I’m curious to see how much of the lyriq will be donated over to the prologue. It might be a funny situation to see similar interiors.
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Im curious to see how much of the lyriq will be donated over to the prologue. It might be a funny situation to see similar interiors.
you know, it could be kind of sad.....
Why buy a Cadillac when you can have the exact same Honda? (assuming they are sharing more than just a platform)

I suppose it'll be like the Toyota/Subaru Bz4X/Solterra and the Lexus RZ450e situation....but then Lexus has differentiated the makes enough so that a Lexus feels like a Lexus and a Toyota feels like a Toyota (as is the case with all the Lexus models that share a platform with its Toyota parent)
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Why buy a Cadillac when you can have the exact same Honda? (assuming they are sharing more than just a platform)
Because it won't be the same car. The Honda is a GM sled (battery, suspension, motors, etc) with a Honda body on top of it. The part I like least about modern day Hondas are the part Honda will be providing. It isn't the same vehicle, or the same tech inside the car.

I also believe the Honda is smaller than the Lyriq, but I could be wrong. GM's Ultium platform is very scalable, from compact up to the Hummer.
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I like Cadillacs for what they represent, but I see not many around where I live. They were a really well made car on a par with the high end European models in their earlier days but they became associated with obesity and older people driving south to FL for the winter.
I hope they do a good job of electrification. The rest of the stuff, blinking lights and automation; Cadillac, Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, whatever appeals to you. It's a luxury car.
Resale value has become absurd on some cars including my low use 2018 STI which apparently has only lost 25% of its value in 5 years. Sometimes buying in on a pre-order of a high end car can result in super resale for the first 2 years, I know a former car dealer who would pre-order a loaded Yukon Denali knowing he could sell it with ease whenever he wanted back in the early 2000's. But this vehicle is more unknown and untested, it could be a gamble if this vehicle somehow fails to perform. Let's face it, the bar set for electrification is Tesla, so it shouldn't be difficult to determine how it compares after some time.
Apparently the Model Y outsold the Accord last year !?!?!?!

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Apparently the Model Y outsold the Accord last year !?!?!?!
At least in the US, that isn't quite correct although it was close.

Also, the Model Y is about 1/3 of all Tesla sales (Tesla is #17 in overall sales between Lexus and Dodge).

Couldn't find worldwide sales so I suppose it's possible overall Tesla sold more Y than Honda sold Accords.
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At least in the US, that isn't quite correct although it was close.

Also, the Model Y is about 1/3 of all Tesla sales (Tesla is #17 in overall sales between Lexus and Dodge).

Couldn't find worldwide sales so I suppose it's possible overall Tesla sold more Y than Honda sold Accords.

Im more impressed about the Rogue outselling so many popular brands, like the Civic. Is Nissan still using those shitty CVTs? If so, that is even more impressive.
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