Cold Air Intake worth it?

[jflogerzi]

Save your money. 2 biggest power gains are tune and header. Thats all you need and maybe an axle back for sound If your after that

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

You have to be careful with statements like that...if this were true, our header would have been designed differently from the factory, helping to decrease the torque dip. Not everything is optimized from the factory.

The header was designed for emissions. The intake was not.

If you cut out the cat from the factory header and tune it on e85, it's very easy to make over 200whp with a stock car. Factory header works pretty good. So does the intake.

[8R6]

Originally Posted by Koa

Take it up with Chase and his team- I'm not saying I believe them. I'm telling you what their findings were and what they tout. You can see their development and dynos on their intake thread.



From what they are saying, it is the other way around. I find it hard to believe, but their report and dyno sheets claim 10whp gain from bone stock to just the intake, and an additional 7whp was found by Shiv when he tuned the prototype FRS. Again, not saying I believe them, but I am forwarding what they're touting

Guys I'm no spring chicken when it comes to autos- been wrenching since I could hold one and know enough to be wary of such claims. I've followed the development of the G/S intake since they started it, though, and knew it was a great piece for the money (group buy rate, at least )

Plus, I sold the stock airbox and inlet for $100. So what's really $200, when people are spending upwards of 1k+ on catbacks. To each their own

sorry, i wasnt meaning to discredit you. was just simply pointing it out to the "general public" here but quoted you since you brought up the numbers, thats all.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by BRGT86

sorry, i wasnt meaning to discredit you. was just simply pointing it out to the "general public" here but quoted you since you brought up the numbers, thats all.

No offense taken- not trying to take credit for that either! I have thought about going down to drift office after I get my OFT and lay down some numbers. I would have had to save my stock airbox to get a true baseline couple of runs (I don't have it anymore).

It just doesn't seem worth it to throw a stage 1 N/A car up on the rollers, though.

all in all, I wouldn't have bought any CAI if I didn't fanboy tough over the G/S dev thread. The quality and craftsmanship is damn great- we'll see on Saturday if the gains can be felt with the OFT. Going to be hard to quantify since a tune does way more than just change the way the twin sucks in air.

[miyoshi82]

I'm planning to go stock with the TRD CAI. Thoughts? It is covered under the warranty since I'm going to have the Dealer install it?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by miyoshi82

I'm planning to go stock with the TRD CAI. Thoughts? It is covered under the warranty since I'm going to have the Dealer install it?

To the best of my knowledge all dealer installed TRD parts are warranty friendly in that they will not void your car warranty. If you mean are they covered by the car warranty I don't think so but are warrantied on their own.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by miyoshi82

I'm planning to go stock with the TRD CAI. Thoughts? It is covered under the warranty since I'm going to have the Dealer install it?

Waste of money. Stock airbox works just fine. Oft any day over trd airbox..

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Waste of money. Stock airbox works just fine. Oft any day over trd airbox..

Agreed! Just a nice drop in. Doesn't even really matter which one as they are all about the same.

[chas3wba0]

Originally Posted by Reaper

The header was designed for emissions. The intake was not.

If you cut out the cat from the factory header and tune it on e85, it's very easy to make over 200whp with a stock car. Factory header works pretty good. So does the intake.

Beat me to it.

But I will restate anyway

Compromises must be made in header design to meet emissions and efficiency requirements, sacrificing max power output.

No such compromises needed to be made in the intake design, so to say that "stock header can be improved upon, therefore stock intake can also be improved upon" is a poor assumption, regardless of whether or not it is true

[BRZnut]

Not to start a war but which drop in does everyone prefer??

[Teseo]

Whatever cheaper

[wootwoot]

I will have a TRD intake coming up for sale soon if interested.

I think an intake is PART of a good NA set up. It has been shown aftermarket intakes can make more power over the stock intake tuned and untuned. Grimspeed has shown gains untuned and moto-east has shown gains tuned with aftermarket intake vs tuned with stock intake. That said, it isn't the first place to spend your money. I think a tune and header is the best starting point. Then an intake if you are after every little bit you can get.

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by wootwoot

I will have a TRD intake coming up for sale soon if interested.

I think an intake is PART of a good NA set up. It has been shown aftermarket intakes can make more power over the stock intake tuned and untuned. Grimspeed has shown gains untuned and moto-east has shown gains tuned with aftermarket intake vs tuned with stock intake. That said, it isn't the first place to spend your money. I think a tune and header is the best starting point. Then an intake if you are after every little bit you can get.

The best intake for NA its the ITB

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by Teseo

The best intake for NA its the ITB

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