follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-13-2013, 04:06 AM   #1
Tamoor
Member
 
Tamoor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: Frs- white out
Location: San Diego
Posts: 30
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Redline shifting

How bad is it if you redline shift your car? Like going 2-3hundred past redline then shifting?
Tamoor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 04:33 AM   #2
BlueLeader
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: Ultramarine Blue Scion FRS
Location: San Gabriel
Posts: 122
Thanks: 45
Thanked 32 Times in 23 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Try it. You'll find the rev limiter will stop you from overreving.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
BlueLeader is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to BlueLeader For This Useful Post:
whataboutbob (04-13-2013)
Old 04-13-2013, 04:34 AM   #3
Yruyur
Senior Member
 
Yruyur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: Scion fr-s asphalt M/T
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 4,192
Thanks: 1,416
Thanked 1,631 Times in 941 Posts
Mentioned: 96 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I do it on most my shifts and I have my rev limiter at 8k. Probably not the best for longevity, had 23,000 on my last frs and it was still pulling hard.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
__________________
Yruyur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 07:14 AM   #4
mswhong
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: FT86
Location: AUS
Posts: 253
Thanks: 83
Thanked 64 Times in 45 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
doing it every now and then won't harm your engine in significant terms; however, if you do this everyday for prolonged periods of time then I would believe that your engine's longevity would be compromised..
mswhong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 08:09 AM   #5
FR-S Matt
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S MT
Location: Round Rock, TX
Posts: 3,941
Thanks: 679
Thanked 1,771 Times in 1,111 Posts
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
I've probably redlined my car once every 3 weeks. There's really no reason to unless you're doing it out of shear joy pulling onto a highway. Just like any other engine, if this is something you consistently do, you won't see your engine lasting as long, but it is okay to do occasionally. Rev limiters are in place for a reason.
FR-S Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 08:33 AM   #6
jwjknorr
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: FRS 2013
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 139
Thanks: 13
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I cant help but get on it alot, i try so hard not to. I do not bring it up to redling everyday though , in fact very rarely you can have fun in the car without the need for it. Out factory redlines are kinda low compared to some people that have changed it, you should be safe. Its actually good top open a car up from time to time , keeps fluids moving , prevents gunk build up, cleans out the system.
jwjknorr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 07:56 PM   #7
CTB727
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ
Location: USA
Posts: 237
Thanks: 65
Thanked 104 Times in 59 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwjknorr View Post
I cant help but get on it alot, i try so hard not to. I do not bring it up to redling everyday though , in fact very rarely you can have fun in the car without the need for it. Out factory redlines are kinda low compared to some people that have changed it, you should be safe. Its actually good top open a car up from time to time , keeps fluids moving , prevents gunk build up, cleans out the system.
AKA, Italian tune-up.
CTB727 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 08:02 PM   #8
Kelbyat07
Poor College Kid
 
Kelbyat07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: ~.~
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,801
Thanks: 246
Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I've been doing that whenever I want go the fastest like when im cruising with my friends.
__________________

Kelbyat07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2013, 08:18 PM   #9
Rayme
The Answer
 
Rayme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: Mazda 2
Location: Moncton, NB
Posts: 1,233
Thanks: 488
Thanked 661 Times in 315 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I redlined everything I ever owned that I bought used with over 150 000 KM and never busted an engine, hitting the rev limiter sucks, don't do it.
__________________
Rayme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 11:10 AM   #10
chadstyle
Senior Member
 
chadstyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: 2013 Subaru BR-Z Limited
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Posts: 883
Thanks: 407
Thanked 562 Times in 294 Posts
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
For those that have raised the redline to 8k, myself included, it should be done solely so you don't hit the rev limiter when shifting right at 7400. Power drops drastically at redline so the only advantage of raising it is not hitting the rev limiter if you're a little late with a shift.

I think the more important thing to remember when driving ANY car hard is making sure its properly warmed up to operating temp before driving it hard. Once its up to temp and you are driving it hard, keep an eye on the gauges. If it starts to get too hot, take it easy. I always keep an eye on the oil temp in this car. Lastly, proper maintenance is a must if you want your car to hold up to the abuse for years to come.
__________________
chadstyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 11:14 AM   #11
#87
I usually post drunk
 
#87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: BRZ
Location: NY
Posts: 1,487
Thanks: 15
Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Maintain it and warm it up, then redline all you want. If you want to go 10k between oil changes then don't drive it hard everyday. If you don't mind increased wear and tear maintenance then do those two things and your car will be fine.
#87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 01:03 PM   #12
Takumi788
JHerbert Racing
 
Takumi788's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 2013 Scion FRS
Location: Syracuse NY
Posts: 1,425
Thanks: 769
Thanked 1,189 Times in 594 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Garage
The power curve ends at 7,000 RPM. Anything after that is slowing you down. For the most efficient, fastest acceleration, shift at 7,000.
__________________
- #813 2013 Scion FRS Build Thread
- JHerbert Racing Website
Takumi788 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 01:10 PM   #13
wparsons
Senior Member
 
wparsons's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Manual
Location: Whitby, ON, Canada
Posts: 6,716
Thanks: 7,875
Thanked 3,353 Times in 2,134 Posts
Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Takumi788 View Post
The power curve ends at 7,000 RPM. Anything after that is slowing you down. For the most efficient, fastest acceleration, shift at 7,000.
Just because power is tapering off doesn't mean you should shift early.

If you look at how much power it's making where the RPM's land after the shift, and take into account the longer ratio it's definitely better to shift at redline in these cars. The torque multiplication factor of the gear you're in will definitely be putting more power to the road at redline than the next longer gear will be at peak power.
__________________
Light travels faster than sound, so people may appear to be bright until you hear them speak...
flickr
wparsons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2013, 01:12 PM   #14
russv
First 86
 
russv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: Scion FRS Argento Automatic
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,127
Thanks: 1,069
Thanked 544 Times in 232 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
There is a reason for the redline.
__________________


Life is short...NO BORING CARS
russv is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
redline kendalldwhite Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 5 08-26-2012 03:12 PM
Reaching redline. erom Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 27 07-23-2012 07:46 PM
shifting and down shifting feel Lowellrenzo Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 23 07-08-2012 06:09 PM
Fr-s vs. Saturn Sky Redline - would your rather Gabriel FR-S / BRZ vs.... 7 06-07-2012 01:57 AM
Engine 7500rpm redline KiingDavid Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 20 03-13-2011 08:04 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.