JDL Turbo Kit Miscellaneous Questions

[AldoRaine]

Hello to all!
I’ve just recently placed an order for a JDL turbo kit, and the following is a list of the options I’ve selected

GT2860RS turbo
UEL manifold
Open dump
2.5 downpipe flange
Black coating on hot parts
Standard intercooler
JDL bash bar
Omni 3 bar
Pre welded pan

I also plan on running a JDL oil cooler, and a dual radium catch can setup


I’ve been communicating with a shop for a little while now about installation, and I just recently got a quote for installation and dynotuning.

Don’t really feel like breaking down the quote as I feel it’s kinda private but I will say for installation of the turbo kit, the oil cooler, and the catch can setup, and also the ecutek pro with Bluetooth dongle, and dynotuning, it came to 3915 after tax.

This is a lot of money and I can see why, it doesn’t seem like a BAD deal but I’m also not trying to spend this much. If I purchased the ecutek items myself it’d be ~$3,200. But overall it’s the same amount. I was wondering if there’s any more cost effective way of doing this? I just don’t feel I have the resources/time available to complete this. I know people who MAY have the tools necessary to complete the job, but seeing as I’ve never installed this kit before, I’d feel much more confident having professionals do it for me.

Any thoughts on where I could make this a bit more cost effective? I’ll make some money back from selling the headers I have right now and the OFT I have, but that’s only gonna help a little really. I’m excited to do this but I’d like to know from you guys who have been through this already what’s the best way to do this? I’m not a huge fan of E-tuning I always told myself I’d get it dynotuned and installed professionally, installing the turbo kit itself without dyno tuning and without the oil cooler or catch can installation was a little under ~$2,000. That’s very doable, just the overall total makes it tough. The pennies add up. I understand this is an expensive thing to move to forced induction, especially turbo, but I’d be a fool to not seek any way to save a dollar here and there by asking those who’ve already been through this.

Thanks so much to you guys who help me out.

Ps here’s a final list I’ve made of a rough cost of everything I could get done if I carry it out as planned

Turbo kit 4,200
Oil cooler 670
Catch can setup 400
Installation, dynotuning, ecutek 3,915

$9,185

Not to mention if/when my clutch starts to slip

[CSG Mike]

Without knowing what is involved in the installation, there's no way to gauge if it's low, high, or fair.

For example, the GReddy T518Z kit on my car has a similar install. Installation of the kit itself, is about 8-10 hours. But, with all the supporting mods that went on with my kit, it's really about 30 hours.

Based on your parts list, you have a pretty bare-bones setup.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...2&postcount=20

Zero issues with e-tuning, with the right tuner. The current calibration on my car was made with zero dyno time, although hundreds of dyno hours went into the development of it.

[Tonrogs]

I wouldn't be scared of etune at all. CSG has a fantastic tuner or HRI also does an excellent job. I use HRI myself.
You bought the prewelded pan, so everything is basically bolt-on now. I would shop around a bit if I were you or ask that shop that quoted that what you are all getting at that price.
My opinion is that seems awfully high, but doing things right takes time.

[Joveen]

Originally Posted by AldoRaine

Hello to all!

I’ve just recently placed an order for a JDL turbo kit, and the following is a list of the options I’ve selected



GT2860RS turbo

UEL manifold

Open dump

2.5 downpipe flange

Black coating on hot parts

Standard intercooler

JDL bash bar

Omni 3 bar

Pre welded pan



I also plan on running a JDL oil cooler, and a dual radium catch can setup





I’ve been communicating with a shop for a little while now about installation, and I just recently got a quote for installation and dynotuning.



Don’t really feel like breaking down the quote as I feel it’s kinda private but I will say for installation of the turbo kit, the oil cooler, and the catch can setup, and also the ecutek pro with Bluetooth dongle, and dynotuning, it came to 3915 after tax.



This is a lot of money and I can see why, it doesn’t seem like a BAD deal but I’m also not trying to spend this much. If I purchased the ecutek items myself it’d be ~$3,200. But overall it’s the same amount. I was wondering if there’s any more cost effective way of doing this? I just don’t feel I have the resources/time available to complete this. I know people who MAY have the tools necessary to complete the job, but seeing as I’ve never installed this kit before, I’d feel much more confident having professionals do it for me.



Any thoughts on where I could make this a bit more cost effective? I’ll make some money back from selling the headers I have right now and the OFT I have, but that’s only gonna help a little really. I’m excited to do this but I’d like to know from you guys who have been through this already what’s the best way to do this? I’m not a huge fan of E-tuning I always told myself I’d get it dynotuned and installed professionally, installing the turbo kit itself without dyno tuning and without the oil cooler or catch can installation was a little under ~$2,000. That’s very doable, just the overall total makes it tough. The pennies add up. I understand this is an expensive thing to move to forced induction, especially turbo, but I’d be a fool to not seek any way to save a dollar here and there by asking those who’ve already been through this.



Thanks so much to you guys who help me out.



Ps here’s a final list I’ve made of a rough cost of everything I could get done if I carry it out as planned



Turbo kit 4,200

Oil cooler 670

Catch can setup 400

Installation, dynotuning, ecutek 3,915



$9,185



Not to mention if/when my clutch starts to slip

You could get catch cans used or find a deal online. Someone on facebook is actually selling dual catch cans right now.

Sell if anyone in the JDL turbo kit owners Facebook group is selling a kit. That could save you some one.

Maperformance oil cooler is cheaper $420 or just get a used oil cooler but I understand supporting JDL.

I dont think tuning will be that much. Most places a dyno tune is $500 and you buy the license for $200. Also Etune maybe cheaper.

Get a buddy and knock the install out and put that money towards a clutch. Start buying clutch parts if you're worried. Verus pivot $30, verus shift fork $170
ACT clutch is like $600 or get south bend $700 and run stock flywheel.

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[Mike_ZN6]

Originally Posted by Joveen

I dont think tuning will be that much. Most places a dyno tune is $500 and you buy the license for $200. Also Etune maybe cheaper.

I think you are being overly optimistic with some of your pricing here. I don't think you can even get a remote FI tune for $500. Also, where can you get an EcuTek license for $200 (seriously, I'm in the market for one)?

[Mike_ZN6]

Originally Posted by AldoRaine

Turbo kit 4,200
Oil cooler 670
Catch can setup 400
Installation, dynotuning, ecutek 3,915

$9,185

Not to mention if/when my clutch starts to slip

I have built a spreadsheet on the actual cost of getting a turbo kit installed/tuned and it ends up being 10-15k depending on the turbo kit and supporting mods. I have contacted 3 different local (and well known online) shops in the DC area and the install cost range is $1,000 to $1,700 for just the install without tune. I would not trust the shop that gave the $1,000 quote after 2 different times they performed questionable work on my car.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Joveen

You could get catch cans used or find a deal online. Someone on facebook is actually selling dual catch cans right now.

Sell if anyone in the JDL turbo kit owners Facebook group is selling a kit. That could save you some one.

Maperformance oil cooler is cheaper $420 or just get a used oil cooler but I understand supporting JDL.

I dont think tuning will be that much. Most places a dyno tune is $500 and you buy the license for $200. Also Etune maybe cheaper.

Get a buddy and knock the install out and put that money towards a clutch. Start buying clutch parts if you're worried. Verus pivot $30, verus shift fork $170
ACT clutch is like $600 or get south bend $700 and run stock flywheel.

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I'd recommend the OS Giken clutch over that all day. It costs slightly more, but ***includes*** an upgraded fork, and an upgraded throwout bearing as well as a stainless clutch line.

[Mike_ZN6]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I'd recommend the OS Giken clutch over that all day. It costs slightly more, but ***includes*** an upgraded fork, and an upgraded throwout bearing as well as a stainless clutch line.

Aren't OS Giken clutches known for making a loud rattling noise when the clutch pedal is pressed in due to their floating disc design?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6

Aren't OS Giken clutches known for making a loud rattling noise when the clutch pedal is pressed in due to their floating disc design?

Rattling yes. Loud? not really. My cooling fans are louder than my clutch by a long shot, as is any reasonable volume of music.

[DarkPira7e]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Rattling yes. Loud? not really. My cooling fans are louder than my clutch by a long shot, as is any reasonable volume of music.

What's the torque rating on the OS giken clutch? I'm assuming you're not referencing their twin disk

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

What's the torque rating on the OS giken clutch? I'm assuming you're not referencing their twin disk

It depends on the configuration, but anywhere from 300 to 430 depending on the choices made.

My OSG is a single and is holding ~360 crank torque without issue. I have a STR variant.

[Mike_ZN6]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Rattling yes. Loud? not really. My cooling fans are louder than my clutch by a long shot, as is any reasonable volume of music.

On a race car it may not be that loud, but I don't think I would want that on my DD.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Mike_ZN6

On a race car it may not be that loud, but I don't think I would want that on my DD.

Have you heard my car? My exhaust is quieter than stock.

That NSX video depicts the right noise, but not the volume; it's in an enclosed space. Likewise, thats why the exhaust is so loud in the video.

I did some quick sound readings on my BRZ, and the clutch reads at 72dB from *next* to the car. The car also... idles at 72dB. This is with an industrial class 2 sound meter I use to measure cars for Laguna sound limit testing.


*edit*

the engine noise is louder than the clutch noise, but the clutch noise can be heard. The car idles at 61dB from 3 ft behind the car.