coilovers or springs?

[koyv90]

Which do you guys think you will get?

Also cons and pros of each?

[Racecomp Engineering]

This gets asked a lot and IMO the answer is it depends!

Lots of crappy springs out there.
Lots of crappy coilovers out there.

One is not always better than the other and what works for one person may not be ideal for you. Can't write any more at the moment...back to the shop.

- Andrew

[Draco-REX]

Love RCE's commitment to the FT community. Their commitment to the STI community is one of the big reasons why I chose them when I did the STI.

Back OT: I'm going springs. I'm not planning to compete for points with my BRZ, so the higher cost of coil-overs isn't fully justified, nor is the added adjustability needed. Especially as it looks like RCE will have a set of "Black" springs for us who DD our cars.

I know I can probably find a set of coilovers for the price of springs+mounts, but I don't put junk on my cars; and to be honest, a set of $1K coilovers is only going to be junk.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by koyv90

Which do you guys think you will get?

Also cons and pros of each?

coilovers are springs.. that coil over a damper


the question you should be asking yourself is "am i going to corner balance my car", and only you can answer that question.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

coilovers are springs.. that coil over a damper

There's no need to be flippant. He's obviously implying "damper/spring solution in a box" versus "spring replacement for otherwise stock suspension".

It's also inappropriate to answer this question, as we have no suspension stroke measurements.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by Ryephile

There's no need to be flippant. He's obviously implying "damper/spring solution in a box" versus "spring replacement for otherwise stock suspension".

It's also inappropriate to answer this question, as we have no suspension stroke measurements.

ya but somebody has to bag on him eventually

otherwise he'll read a bunch of things and be all like
"yo my coilovers are wesum why you still on springs bra"

[Calum]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

the question you should be asking yourself is "am i going to corner balance my car", and only you can answer that question.

Exactly, coil overs give you a lot more opportunity to screw things up. And they're really only useful for fixing an issue. From the corner weights we've seen, I doubt you could gain much over a set of simially damped dampers and springs.

I'll be looking for a mild drop with a linear rate and a set of good dampers. RCE, swift, or pink springs from Subarugenuineparts.com is where I'll start my search for springs. Koni will be getting my money for dampers.

[buckets]

Looking forward to swift springs

[koyv90]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

ya but somebody has to bag on him eventually

otherwise he'll read a bunch of things and be all like
"yo my coilovers are wesum why you still on springs bra"

Well i thought people liked full sets of coilovers because if you dump your car the ride quality is better, plus they help in corners more so because of the on the fly switching of rates/ride height.

Also I don't know about you guys but what crappy companies?
The only ones i Have heard about are Buddy Club(which i have on my rsx and work fine), Tein, Mugen, Tanabe, And function and form(This one being like a knock off of the others but still okay).
Sorry coming from clubrsx and honda forums coilovers don't seem to terrible. But if its just lowering springs could do the job just as good.

[poormans_LFA]

are coil overs gonna help me pull 1g??

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by koyv90

Well i thought people liked full sets of coilovers because if you dump your car the ride quality is better, plus they help in corners more so because of the on the fly switching of rates/ride height.

Also I don't know about you guys but what crappy companies?
The only ones i Have heard about are Buddy Club(which i have on my rsx and work fine), Tein, Mugen, Tanabe, And function and form(This one being like a knock off of the others but still okay).
Sorry coming from clubrsx and honda forums coilovers don't seem to terrible. But if its just lowering springs could do the job just as good.

Its not really on the fly unless you have the electronic setup.

Otherwise its more like adjustability is based on how fast you can take out your wheels, rotate the coils with the dinky ass coil wrench and line it up properly with each other wheel.

I'd go coils only mainly for winters. If i end up having this as an only car i'd like to jack up the ride height for those snowy seasons (hey i live in Canada, half the time it snows) Otherwise the car is just another snowplow.

[Levi]

Springs from some good brand (Eibach, KW, Bilstein,...) if you just want to lower the car for good looks.

Full coilover kit of good brand and version (KW Clubsport, AST/Moton, Bilstein, Öhlins,...) if you know what you are doing and are tracking your car regularly.



So to answer you question for a street car springs, for a trackcar coilovers, but can't tell yet as I have first to drive an test it and adapt to situation and needs.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

are coil overs gonna help me pull 1g??

if you just want to pull 1G buy a set of RS3, RE11, StarSpecs or anything else in that regard. Won't need to ever touch the suspension.

anything stickier will only make you corner faster, again, no need for suspension upgrades.

[7thgear]

Originally Posted by koyv90

Well i thought people liked full sets of coilovers because if you dump your car the ride quality is better, plus they help in corners more so because of the on the fly switching of rates/ride height.

Also I don't know about you guys but what crappy companies?
The only ones i Have heard about are Buddy Club(which i have on my rsx and work fine), Tein, Mugen, Tanabe, And function and form(This one being like a knock off of the others but still okay).
Sorry coming from clubrsx and honda forums coilovers don't seem to terrible. But if its just lowering springs could do the job just as good.

IF, and only IF the coilover is designed with a shorter body (for wishbone suspensions, ie, the rear of the car) or if the body is shorter and or adjustable at the mounting point to the hub (this is for MacPherson struts) then you may retain comfort while going lower.

however in some applications this can be achieved in a regular damper + spring combo with no adjustability (such as inserts, case in point, subarus)


the point is, it is not black and white.