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Old 06-08-2022, 02:31 PM   #1
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Has anyone tried the Revolution rear sway bar adjuster?

After some searching I didn’t see any mention of this. Seems pretty interesting as people have mentioned how their rear sway bars sit at an upward angle relative to the chassis. But not sure if this will even do much.

https://www.rhdjapan.com/revolution-...-gr86-zn8.html

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Isn’t easier to adjust sway bar angle using adjustable endlinks?
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As their description suggests, it would help with lowered cars. I guess it could offer two benefits - one is increase clearance for the sway bars if there is any contact; another is the effective rate of the bar depends on the angle, so keeping it closer to horizontal will preserve the stiffness of the bar better.

Is it really beneficial, though? I'll let folks with lowered cars chime in if the two theoretical issues I raised are a real concern or not.
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Isn’t easier to adjust sway bar angle using adjustable endlinks?
You'll need pretty short endlinks if the car is lowered any significant amount, and then you might run into clearance issues with the bar or endlinks hitting suspension members.

In practice I'm sure you're right and these are not needed, but in theory they may give a benefit.
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You'll need pretty short endlinks if the car is lowered any significant amount, and then you might run into clearance issues with the bar or endlinks hitting suspension members.

In practice I'm sure you're right and these are not needed, but in theory they may give a benefit.
Good point.
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As their description suggests, it would help with lowered cars. I guess it could offer two benefits - one is increase clearance for the sway bars if there is any contact; another is the effective rate of the bar depends on the angle, so keeping it closer to horizontal will preserve the stiffness of the bar better.

Is it really beneficial, though? I'll let folks with lowered cars chime in if the two theoretical issues I raised are a real concern or not.
I don't have any clearance issue like some others do as I'm only lowered 20mm so I'd mainly get it for better sway bar actuation and of course the bling. However at $234.37 shipped it's a tough buy without knowing more about it.
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It could be a neat product, and even better if one of the stateside vendors picked up the ball and ran with this(Verus, RCE, SPL parts...).

I would be in for a set manufactured here even if all it did was just level out the sway bar.

I noticed the upward angle on mine after installing the SS-1 and thought the end links would have to be pretty short to level the bar.

Anyone with a stock 22 care to provide a pic of the sway bar angle stock?
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I bought this item, but I couldn't fit them because I have the GR rear bar.
So, I bought 2 items that combined should do the same effect.
Revolution shorter sway bar links: great difference, these solved the power oversteer I had, I couldn't touch the gas if the steering wasn't perfectly straight.
R Magic sway bar brackets: they stiffen the brackets where the sway bar if attached.
These made the same effect of stiffening the rear sway bar, and gave a little more linear response to it.
The guy I sold the Revolution brackets said he was surprised of how a such small part could me so much more difference.
BTW: shorter links are not just for clearing issues, but even for correct sway bar position. The ideal position should be parallel to the gound, or even better perpendicular to the shocks.
This can't be achieved on the front, as lowering would require longer links, but they would end up touching the lower arm.

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I bought this item, but I couldn't fit them because I have the GR rear bar.
So, I bought 2 items that combined should do the same effect.
Revolution shorter sway bar links: great difference, these solved the power oversteer I had, I couldn't touch the gas is steering was perfectly straight.
R Magic sway bar brackets: they stiffen the brackets where the sway bar is attached.
These made the same effect of stiffening the rear sway bar, and gave a little more linear response to it.
The guy I sold the Revolution brackets said he was surprised of how a such small part could me so much more difference.
BTW: shorter links are not just for clearing issues, but even for correct sway bar position. The ideal position should be parallel to the gound, or even better perpendicular to the shocks.
This can't be achieved on the front, as lowering would require longer links, but they would end up touching the lower arm.
How short are your rear endlinks?

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68 mm at the lower setting. It's not enough for a 30 mm lowering, but it's better than nothing. I set them with same length for both, as it seems I have no preload (no corner balancing).
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If somebody is interested, I found an even better product, made by Blue Area, that combines Revolution brackets with R Magic ones. I couldn't source any seller or website anyway.
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Seems like a good idea. I have my endlinks pulled down pretty far but since the tab on my swaybar is longer with all the different setting holes it contacts the bottom of the chassis under compression. Raising it would bring the tips down on my car some.
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I bought this item, but I couldn't fit them because I have the GR rear bar.
So, I bought 2 items that combined should do the same effect.
Revolution shorter sway bar links: great difference, these solved the power oversteer I had, I couldn't touch the gas if the steering wasn't perfectly straight.
R Magic sway bar brackets: they stiffen the brackets where the sway bar if attached.
These made the same effect of stiffening the rear sway bar, and gave a little more linear response to it.
The guy I sold the Revolution brackets said he was surprised of how a such small part could me so much more difference.
BTW: shorter links are not just for clearing issues, but even for correct sway bar position. The ideal position should be parallel to the gound, or even better perpendicular to the shocks.
This can't be achieved on the front, as lowering would require longer links, but they would end up touching the lower arm.
Do you have a picture of your GR sway bar? I remember you mentioning it years ago but I'm glad you got it to fit.
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Not my car, but that's it. You need longer bolts and washers too.
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