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Old 04-21-2021, 12:11 PM   #449
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The new 911 GT3 has dropped its front MacPherson struts for double wishbones in its quest for handling perfection, and it seems to have worked. Pity the twins didn't do the same....
Theres a super-wide flat-4 engine in the way! Should go to V4, IMO...
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The new 911 GT3 has dropped its front MacPherson struts for double wishbones in its quest for handling perfection, and it seems to have worked. Pity the twins didn't do the same....
Would be nice. But would raise the price as it's a more expensive system, it would raise the weight of the vehicle slightly, and as ZDan basically said - we don't have room for it (would also likely reduce trunk space).
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Old 04-21-2021, 03:13 PM   #451
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TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86 (Second Gen 86)!

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Old 04-21-2021, 04:01 PM   #452
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The new 911 GT3 has dropped its front MacPherson struts for double wishbones in its quest for handling perfection, and it seems to have worked. Pity the twins didn't do the same....
It wasn't like anybody had a problem with the GT3/RS that came before. A 370Z has front double wishbone as well but people like the feel of the twins more.
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Old 04-21-2021, 04:08 PM   #453
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There wasn't much to improve on the new car because critics only harped on the torque dip and the Prius summer tires. I think gen 2 will have near perfect reviews like a Cayman yet some will still want a turbo/supercharged motor.
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Motor trend article I found at my doctor’s office:

A doctors office is supposed to be a safe space, it shouldn't contain horrifying images of BRZ front bumpers to scare unsuspecting people.
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But its smiling at you!
Surely thats supposed to help make you feel.....happy?
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Would be nice. But would raise the price as it's a more expensive system, it would raise the weight of the vehicle slightly, and as ZDan basically said - we don't have room for it (would also likely reduce trunk space).
I can't imagine the weight penalty would be significant - even the 2400 lb "gram strategy" ND MX-5 has front double wishbones.
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It wasn't like anybody had a problem with the GT3/RS that came before.
The linked reviewer, a pro racing driver, did to some degree. He describes the improvement.
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A 370Z has front double wishbone as well but people like the feel of the twins more.
Of course just having a double wishbone setup isn't going to magically produce a great-handling car. Other things in the design and tuning of the Z degrade its handling. Plus there is that weight.
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Surely thats supposed to help make you feel.....happy?
Maybe would be more appropriate in a dentist's office...
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The linked reviewer, a pro racing driver, did to some degree. He describes the improvement.




Of course just having a double wishbone setup isn't going to magically produce a great-handling car. Other things in the design and tuning of the Z degrade its handling. Plus there is that weight.

The issue I have with this is that now that a double wishbone GT3 exists you'll hear critics saying things about the prior generations they never mentioned before. Its like folks are scared to speak their mind about a GT Porsche until a new model shows up.



That was my point. DW don't necessarily make a car better. I wish we had camber adjustability from the factory instead of having to buy those parts in the aftermarket. The old GT Porsches had that.
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Yea, I agree. It almost looks "pre-faded".
Ha! It's an homage to 80's era Toyota red.
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