Do you think Toyota should abolish the brand Scion?

[shishand]

honestly, im disgusted by those scion box cars.. there aimed for teens can i testify as a teen those cars are the ugliest piece of shits i have ever seen in my life.. thats why i dont like the scion logo on my baby

but still, its my just opnion, and i still vote to keep the brand, just this diamond under the Toyota brand not scion...

[campy]

I remember before I discovered the frs, I went on the record saying "I will never buy a Scion". The problem was that Toyota had no fun, interesting cars. If you look at their Japanese lineup, you'll find the Scion xB, xA, iQ, and tC. They're relatively more stylish (compared to other Toyotas), but they still aren't stylish or sporty enough to capture the young, hip market they were trying to attract in the US with the brand Scion. It just seemed like such a swing and a miss to me. Scion became a brand for all the cars that were just slightly "too japanese" for the American pallet.

In the past 10 years, Toyota has become the punchline for every "beige, boring car" joke. So they already had a bad rep outside of Japan. They needed Scion in order to sell their more liberal-designed, youthful cars in the US.

With the success of the FRS, I believe Scion will stay around for a long time. The brand is becoming more familiar to people as a "sports car" brand. So I imagine Toyota will take note and build more fun, cheap cars since they know the market is there.

Originally Posted by alexb99

If they get rid of Scion, the FR-S will probably become a rare car

Imagine all the people suddenly rebadging their Toyotas as Scions hahaha


PS: this thread is stupid.

[Jared0934]

I guarantee this has been said, but I don't feel like sifting through even 2 pages of this discussion to find out. You ungrateful punk (not really :-P ), Toyota did you the deed by letting Scion sell to us. Ask all the BRZ owners how they felt paying 5-7k hype mark ups. I'd rather buy it at a sticker price and pay 30 bucks for the toyota badges rather than pay $5,000 for the mark up and get the toyota badges with it.

[kthxbai]

Originally Posted by Crzbiohazard

Anybody know price differences in us$$$ from the frs and gt86?

Lowest GT86 trim is about 24,995£ = $39,392. For me the GT86 would be completely out of my reach and like many FR-S/BRZ owners we worked very hard to afford this car at it`s current US price.

Originally Posted by Freeman

Eh the OP is just a badge whore that's trolling. Let the kid have his fun, and don't take it too personal.

I agree with you, however I think some of the forum members are tiring of the OPs almost constant rag on the Scion brand/FR-S as a whole. If one could consider what the Scion brands mission is as a company, then one could consider the reason why Toyota made the FR-S a Scion. Buyers is Japan begged Toyota to bring out a mono-spec GT86 because they wanted a blank slate to make the car their own. Heck, there are Japanese car enthusiasts who are replacing their Toyota badges on their GT86 with Scion badges as we speak!

At the end of the day, every is entitled their opinions. However, it just gets old when your opinion is the same, day in and day out.

[mush]

having the scion brand is pointless IMO... i dont know if its all dealers but from what ive seen toyota and scion are always in the same building
my parents are HUGE toyota/lexus fans and they didnt know about the scion brand until i told them about the FRS and explained that they are made by toyota... they STILL didnt believe it for a while and thought it was some crappy brand

[mangostick]

Its a common trend amongst car companies in the US. Its to target different demographics.

Scion= affordable, toyota quality
Toyota= the mainstay, for those more established but wanting to stay reasonable
Lexus= upper crust, luxury with quality

To mention abolishing one of toyota's most profitable US market brands is akin to asking toyota to stop selling Tacoma's because you personally dont like them.

One, its never going to happen so keep dreaming.
Two.. why worried about the badge? Are your pants a little too roomy? lol You know no one who knows anything about the car pays any attention to the badging.

[TemeCal]

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. You already have a thread open for your BRZ buddies, asking why the BRZ is "better" than an FR-S. I'd rather own a Toyota/Scion any day, for several reasons. I don't quite understand or get why some (not all) BRZ owners have such a superiority complex.

Some of you BRZ owners need to stop this way of thinking. You're no better than the rest of us. You guys drive the same car as the rest of us. Stop putting your car on a pedestal above ours. We all have the same, fun, enjoyable cars. It's your type of thinking, that give Subie owners a bad name. This thread is just ridiculous.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by YourFearlessLeader

i like the brand. your poll is crap.

+1

Not sure why Mr. Noodles is asking, especially considering he's in Canada where Scion just launched in '12.

In Japan Toyota has several different brand divisions, not just a separate luxury brand. I don't care if people think my car is a cheap brand. Like the Mustangs this car manages to transcend all classes.

[mangostick]

One isn't better than the other. /story. They're the same car with some cosmetic and accessory differences. Its like comparing a Trans Am to a Camaro.

IMHO if someone seriously thinks the BRZ is better or the FRS is worse they're just attempting to justify spending more for cushy interior gadgets that a true sporty car doesn't need. Neither car is "better" than the other. The differences are subjective (aka "beauty in the eye of the beholder")

But that's just my opinion so take with grain of salt. I hate the outside looks of the BRZ personally... and the scoobie dealers are gouging on the prices.

[chenshuo]

Originally Posted by mangostick

Its a common trend amongst car companies in the US. Its to target different demographics.

Scion= affordable, toyota quality
Toyota= the mainstay, for those more established but wanting to stay reasonable
Lexus= upper crust, luxury with quality

To mention abolishing one of toyota's most profitable US market brands is akin to asking toyota to stop selling Tacoma's because you personally dont like them.

One, its never going to happen so keep dreaming.
Two.. why worried about the badge? Are your pants a little too roomy? lol You know no one who knows anything about the car pays any attention to the badging.

it's an opinion poll, not about me dominating the world. chill

[whaap]

Originally Posted by TemeCal

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. You already have a thread open for your BRZ buddies, asking why the BRZ is "better" than an FR-S. I'd rather own a Toyota/Scion any day, for several reasons. I don't quite understand or get why some (not all) BRZ owners have such a superiority complex.

Some of you BRZ owners need to stop this way of thinking. You're no better than the rest of us. You guys drive the same car as the rest of us. Stop putting your car on a pedestal above ours. We all have the same, fun, enjoyable cars. It's your type of thinking, that give Subie owners a bad name. This thread is just ridiculous.

Since they all paid more than we did they have to have their fun somehow. In fact, a lot of them paid "a lot" more for their cars than we did. Then if you want to go up a tier they have the Limited. When the triplets (Toyota, Scion, Subaru) first hit the market I thought I would go with the BRZ limited because of the seats but then I learned I had to take navigation which to me is dumb since I know how to read a map and I would also have to swallow having a spoiler which is nothing but added rice as far as I'm concerned, I went with the simplicity of the Scion. Besides it's the better looking car.

p.s. I didn't vote.

[TemeCal]

Originally Posted by whaap

Since they all paid more than we did they have to have their fun somehow. In fact, a lot of them paid "a lot" more for their cars than we did. Then if you want to go up a tier they have the Limited. When the triplets (Toyota, Scion, Subaru) first hit the market I thought I would go with the BRZ limited because of the seats but then I learned I had to take navigation which to me is dumb since I know how to read a map and I would also have to swallow having a spoiler which is nothing but added rice as far as I'm concerned, I went with the simplicity of the Scion. Besides it's the better looking car.

p.s. I didn't vote.

Exactly my thoughts!

[mangostick]

Originally Posted by chenshuo

it's an opinion poll, not about me dominating the world. chill

lol. your the one suggesting genocide. You chill

[chenshuo]

Originally Posted by TemeCal

I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. You already have a thread open for your BRZ buddies, asking why the BRZ is "better" than an FR-S. I'd rather own a Toyota/Scion any day, for several reasons. I don't quite understand or get why some (not all) BRZ owners have such a superiority complex.

Some of you BRZ owners need to stop this way of thinking. You're no better than the rest of us. You guys drive the same car as the rest of us. Stop putting your car on a pedestal above ours. We all have the same, fun, enjoyable cars. It's your type of thinking, that give Subie owners a bad name. This thread is just ridiculous.

huh? what have u been reading? the pist in the brz section was asking why they chose what they chose, just like i have the same post in the frs section asking owners why they chose what they chose. why are u and some others so sensitive?