How much rubbing is too much rubbing? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Pokeguyjai · 12-09-2013, 10:38 PM

Hi Guys,

I am running RCE Yellows on stock dampers (planning to replace them with Koni Yellows soon). I have 18x9.5 +35 TC105ns with 245/35 Michelin PSS.

I am getting a little rubbing when I pull out of my driveway and I turn the wheel all the way to the right. It feels like my my car is shuttering a little bit (not exactly an accurate description but can't think of the right word)

I took my wheels off a few weeks ago and I noticed that there was a black mark on my RCE Yellows, which I am guessing is the tire rubbing against the suspension. Some parts were worn through where I could see the metal of the suspension, only a small bit though.

I suppose an easy remedy would be to not turn the wheel fully when I get out of my driveway. But I was just wondering if a little bit of rubbing is bad?

Thanks in advance gents

diss7 · 12-09-2013, 10:40 PM

I expected more filth

OICU812 · 12-09-2013, 10:52 PM

Throw on some 5mm spacers on fronts for sure, only thing is already a very aggressive offset. So if you don't want much more poke, don't want rub you need to either

A.) get different wheels / offset
B.) coilovers

That'/ your choices or wait till something wears through at worst time I suppose.

Pokeguyjai · 12-09-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by diss7

I expected more filth

It's to lure you in so you would read my boring yet neurotic question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OICU812

Throw on some 5mm spacers on fronts for sure, only thing is already a very aggressive offset. So if you don't want much more poke, don't want rub you need to either

A.) get different wheels / offset
B.) coilovers

That'/ your choices or wait till something wears through at worst time I suppose.

Or I could not turn the wheel all the way! LOL

I plan on keeping an eye on it, but I am guessing it is only rubbing when I feel that "shuddering"? Thanks

rallysrt · 12-10-2013, 03:01 AM

Worry a lot more about your tires than your springs when you're checking things out. No more than some scuffs on the sidewalls are fine but if there's any gouging, try even 3mm spacers and possibly new tires if it's bad.

Wolfking · 12-10-2013, 03:25 AM

Don't be silly! Did you really ask if improper clearance is bad?

asia_minor · 12-10-2013, 03:29 AM

"That's what you mother said last night!"

Personally I wouldn't take any rubbing at all.

Pokeguyjai · 12-10-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rallysrt

Worry a lot more about your tires than your springs when you're checking things out. No more than some scuffs on the sidewalls are fine but if there's any gouging, try even 3mm spacers and possibly new tires if it's bad.

Yeh I looked at the tires and there were no gouges. The tires looked perfectly fine, I'll check again tonight when I get a chance.

Darkrune · 12-10-2013, 03:14 PM

Sounds to me like your wheels and tires are too aggressive for the front. I would do 18 8.5 and 235 40 tires. That probably would fix it.

P.S. that offset etc for the rear is good though.

Pokeguyjai · 12-10-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkrune

Sounds to me like your wheels and tires are too aggressive for the front. I would do 18 8.5 and 235 40 tires. That probably would fix it.

P.S. that offset etc for the rear is good though.

Funny thing is that people have the same wheel setups, higher offsets than I do, stock suspension, and they are not getting any rubbing.

mfbmike · 12-10-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokeguyjai

Funny thing is that people have the same wheel setups, higher offsets than I do, stock suspension, and they are not getting any rubbing.

Camber.

Darkrune · 12-10-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pokeguyjai

Funny thing is that people have the same wheel setups, higher offsets than I do, stock suspension, and they are not getting any rubbing.

Like mike says, alignment has a lot to do with rubbing. Also, 245 is pretty wide for tires up front. I think I have seen 240 45 be a bit of a benchmark for the front. But tires run different sizes too, it is a crap shoot if you aren't an expert, which I am not, but I have experience with stuff like this.

Pokeguyjai · 12-10-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mfbmike

Camber.

I have -2 degrees in the front. Thanks guys for the help.

bkblitzed · 12-10-2013, 04:25 PM

any rubbing is too much rubbing. That shit gets annoying when cornering.

12-09-2013, 10:38 PM	#1
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diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,179 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I expected more filth

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rallysrt Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: shitboxes Location: Canada Posts: 31 Thanks: 100 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Worry a lot more about your tires than your springs when you're checking things out. No more than some scuffs on the sidewalls are fine but if there's any gouging, try even 3mm spacers and possibly new tires if it's bad.

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Wolfking Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Asphalt FRS Location: OVP, KS Posts: 609 Thanks: 684 Thanked 194 Times in 134 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Don't be silly! Did you really ask if improper clearance is bad?

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Darkrune Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2017 86 Location: Florida Posts: 251 Thanks: 36 Thanked 52 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds to me like your wheels and tires are too aggressive for the front. I would do 18 8.5 and 235 40 tires. That probably would fix it. P.S. that offset etc for the rear is good though.

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