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Old 04-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #71
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It’s a good way to show self expression. And you can expect to gain clout from it and attention.
So, this is where your opinion differs from the majority, who don't think it's a good way to show self expression. What are you hoping to express with a face tattoo - what's the message?
You'll definitely gain attention from it (mostly negative).
In what situation would you gain clout from it? From most perspectives, you stand to lose clout in most business or job environments.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:01 PM   #72
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But look back 800 years ago and the leaders of civilizations had markings and tattoos all over their bodies including their faces. I’m just saying. Don’t judge a book by its cover.


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And if we were having this conversation 800 years ago you'd have made a valid argument.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:03 PM   #73
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Jesus would totally get a tat

And Jesus was totally a super-white dude who looks like Jon Bon Jovi.



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I just think it’s stupid. I don’t believe in god but per the Bible via revelations Jesus has two tattoos on his legs. I mean if the holy man himself has tattoos then it shouldn’t matter.
Not likely. Jesus, if he existed, was a Jew who followed Jewish laws that expressly forbid tattoos.

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It’s a good way to show self expression. And you can expect to gain clout from it and attention.
You'll gain clout on the street I guess. You'll lose clout anywhere else. You'll get attention too, but probably not the kind you want.

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But look back 800 years ago and the leaders of civilizations had markings and tattoos all over their bodies including their faces. I’m just saying. Don’t judge a book by its cover.
Nobody is saying there's something mystically evil about tattoos. In American mainstream culture, a face tattoo is seen as expressing an "I don't give a fuck about your social norms, and fuck you" attitude. A face tattoo says to most people, "I've been in prison and I'm a bit proud of that fact". If those are the messages you want to send, go ahead and send them then face the consequences, good and bad. You probably already get some looks and crap for your stretched ears. Multiply that negativity by at least 10 if not 100 times or more.

But if you're working in a dive bar or tattoo parlor, a face tattoo is cool.

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And Jesus was totally a super-white dude who looks like Jon Bon Jovi.











Not likely. Jesus, if he existed, was a Jew who followed Jewish laws that expressly forbid tattoos.







You'll gain clout on the street I guess. You'll lose clout anywhere else. You'll get attention too, but probably not the kind you want.







Nobody is saying there's something mystically evil about tattoos. In American mainstream culture, a face tattoo is seen as expressing an "I don't give a fuck about your social norms, and fuck you" attitude. A face tattoo says to most people, "I've been in prison and I'm a bit proud of that fact". If those are the messages you want to send, go ahead and send them then face the consequences, good and bad. You probably already get some looks and crap for your stretched ears. Multiply that negativity by at least 10 if not 100 times or more.



But if you're working in a dive bar or tattoo parlor, a face tattoo is cool.


Nah I just work on fixing people’s electrical problems and I bring light like a god to pretty much anywhere. I feel like my case could be different because electricity is foreign to 90% of Americans.


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And Jesus was totally a super-white dude who looks like Jon Bon Jovi.

And spoke English.
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But look back 800 years ago and the leaders of civilizations had markings and tattoos all over their bodies including their faces. I’m just saying. Don’t judge a book by its cover.


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Yes and the average life expediency was around 30 years, plague was real, 95% of the population lived in hovels and you stood a great chance of being murdered by an invading horde just about anyplace. In fact it was the very few civilizations that that tattooed their faces that were the most likely to be invading and murdering. Probably why face tattoos went out of style when one of their main purposes was to scare the shit out of the enemies.
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And spoke English.
I wonder what all the white racist and bigot Christians would think if they actually met the real "dude", would they still be racists and bigots after seeing their superhero was a dark skinned bearded dude from the middle east?



Disclaimer: I'm a white guy who does not believe in fairytales, but I support your right to believe whatever the hell you want as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone.
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This is a @humfrz "back in the day" story. During my teens I was at a school that was slowly slipping down the ratings.. (nothing to do with me! Honest!!).

Racism was growing, 2Tone Ska at its peak etc.. Anyway, a very smart kid (excelled in all subjects including art), we (students and teachers) could see he will go places, nice job, nice house, a nice wife, 2.4 kids etc... Well, he went down the path that we least expected!! Hanging about with skinheads and generally getting very abnoxious!! One day he comes into school supporting a tattoo on his forehead.. a effing swastika!! Found the path down the 'road to nowhere'..

Talk about throwing your opportunities down the drain!!!

End of story.. no idea what happened to him and his skinhead mates... Actually, one of them joined the army, lost his racists views..

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I'm a big fan of black Jesus as a concept, but hypothetical historical Jesus was probably an olive-skinned Mediterranean/north African guy, not a darker central/south African. We can all be fairly certain that Jesus was not some Scottish Highlander.
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I'm a big fan of black Jesus as a concept, but hypothetical historical Jesus was probably an olive-skinned Mediterranean/north African guy, not a darker central/south African. We can all be fairly certain that Jesus was not some Scottish Highlander.
Well... Maybe....

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I'm a big fan of black Jesus as a concept, but hypothetical historical Jesus was probably an olive-skinned Mediterranean/north African guy, not a darker central/south African. We can all be fairly certain that Jesus was not some Scottish Highlander.
I don't know, unless his mum was lighter skinned, but his dad was definitely pretty dark skinned.
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I wonder what all the white racist and bigot Christians would think if they actually met the real "dude", would they still be racists and bigots after seeing their superhero was a dark skinned bearded dude from the middle east?



Disclaimer: I'm a white guy who does not believe in fairytales, but I support your right to believe whatever the hell you want as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone.
At the time Jesus was "born" (if we concede a historical person) the region had been conquered by the Greeks, Persians, Romans and half a dozen smaller groups from various other areas. Since Judaism is a religion not a "race" it would be hard to tell exactly what the population of the time would have looked like with all the intermingling that was going on. Could have been Caucasian right up to black but probably was someplace in between. The population of the areas are still varied today with a predominance of olive skin and dark hair since the last wholesale takeover was by the Ottoman empire but that could be very differ 2,000 years ago.


What he most certainly did NOT look like was Chad Kroeger!











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