2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by cyde01

日本語出来ないやつは黙ってろ。あきれるぜ、まったく。

I lol'ed

[Vassp]

I've been lurking this site for more than two years, fantastic site, and many amazing posts. I've been following the 86 for a while now and waiting for the update. I drove one of the earlier cars, think it was 2013. I didn't mind the interior, the seating position was great, the ride and road noise was average, the power was ok. I thought it was a slightly compromised which needed to deliver a little more on the core things to balance the compromises out. I understand what they were shooting for in the original, I felt for me they didn't quite get there. after reading the changes in the 2017, it could be the fix I've been waiting for.
1- Slightly more power, the car doesn't need too much more and would be unpractical for its cost target.
2- shorter gearing, will give the car a bit more zing and more usable off the line in the manual.
3-sound deadening, welcomed for my taste.
4-tweak the steering- I didn't mind the previous setup but anything livelier would be great.
The new styling a touchy subject, I think it's done to fit in with toyotas latest design DNA accross the rest of its range but I feel it doesn't hit the mark for the 86. Hope I'm wrong when I see it in the flesh.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by krayzie

I used to call that the Captain Picard steering wheel.

I don't understand why car companies can't give us an option of hiding the steering wheel controls or just make another stalk.



Is the new wheel thicker?

Feels alittle that way, the leather is differnt that's for sure. Not sure if that's a feeling or a fact tbh

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Haven't heard a thing on colours yet. @Dadhawk was it you that had the link to the FAQ? It stated outright that the 17s are indeed monospec.

Yep... This link was in an email they sent out to current owners..


Q: Will Toyota dealers still be using Pure Price and Pure Process Plus?


A: For MY17, the iA, iM and FR-S will remain monospec and a single price. After that, we will evaluate how pricing for those vehicles as Toyotas will be carried out. Regarding Pure Process Plus, it’s specific to Scion so it won’t be available at Toyota dealers.

[raven1231]

Moto seems to think there are indeed changes to the engine internally, and to the torque band.


http://club4ag.com/2017-toyota-86/


edit: just realized ICHI beat me to it

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Zaku

might just be me, getting to sit in both the old car and new car back to back within 20 mins of eachother. I stand by the New steering wheel button or not feels better than the old one. the new wheel just feel better in the hands that emblem is really nice on there. Again it's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by krayzie

Oh well it could have been worse.

Is that a QWERTY keyboard.

[lizbrayan]

If its being showed at the nyc autoshow it will def be the reason I go. Ive been fighting with my self if I want to go or not but haven't found a good reason to go. This is it. Does anyone know if its going to be at the autoshow this year? March 25th thru April 3rd.

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[GT/86]

The 86 is at the NY auto show. ill will be there this Sunday to take a close look and see if I like it. Or wait for the amazing second generation 86 in 2019

Originally Posted by lizbrayan

If its being showed at the nyc autoshow it will def be the reason I go. Ive been fighting with my self if I want to go or not but haven't found a good reason to go. This is it. Does anyone know if its going to be at the autoshow this year? March 25th thru April 3rd.

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[CatScan]

Originally Posted by GT/86

The 86 is at the NY auto show. ill will be there this Sunday to take a close look and see if I like it. Or wait for the amazing second generation 86 in 2019

Is '19 the new target speculation date? Has the circular firing squad of rumor started already?

[stevesnj]

So Friday i went to the NYIAS and took these pics. I have to say there was a different feel when I saw this car. It has a feeling it is "more refined" than the current model design. But driving my 2016 I am used to the look and how it makes me feel. So though this design isn't my taste it does look, in person, of things to come. This could be the interim to the 2nd gen. The front bumper looks not as good in person as I suspected but by no means is it awful, disgusting, etc. It just has too many curves. If there were sharper angles it would be much better. The rear looks good to me and has the sharper angles the front should have. As far as the interior I think it looks way better with the silver stitching than the red. I don't like red so I am bias on this. To me the silver would go better with my blue than the red does. The 86 logo's on the headlights and the front fender to me look very cool. Most sports cars on the market have their model badge in the similar spot. This doesn't bother me or the headlight etching. It looks good to me. The tires are Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02 All Season Touring tires. Interesting choice but if these are the production tires only time will tell. Here's the pics and link for the tires.

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/turanza-el400-02

[stevesnj]

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[krayzie]

These close-up shots do make the design elements look great on their own. Just not feeling it once I see a shot of the entire car for some reason, could be all the curvy design elements that seems to make the overall product more Korean than Japanese.

I wish someone would buck the trend and come out with a more boxy 80's looking sports car.

[CatScan]

Originally Posted by krayzie

These close-up shots do make the design elements look great on their own. Just not feeling it once I see a shot of the entire car for some reason, could be all the curvy design elements that seems to make the overall product more Korean than Japanese.

I wish someone would buck the trend and come out with a more boxy 80's looking sports car.

I'd pay money for something round. That rear end looks OK in those pics, but the front end is a hot mess that has nothing to do with the rest of the car.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Damn... Someone catch that comment lol

Actually, idk anything bout Subaru side (I only know Toyota JP). PR & PR Manager from SoA were pretty rude to our staff today laughing & mocking him. I told him to don't take it to heart, cuz Subaru don't really care bout BRZ... but whatever

Late to the party, but this always gets me when people tell me the Twins are "engineered and built by Subaru" with the implication that Toyota was merely the bankrolling party here.

Subaru stamped their name into every conceivable part that they could, but realistically, they weren't on-board with this project until Toyota went and built their own mule as a proof-of-concept.

So no, Subaru isn't the driving force behind this car - they'd have aborted it right from Day One, if not for Toyota's insistence. This car succeeded, almost despite Subaru, and not so much because of Subaru. This is a car built with Subaru's plant/property/equipment, but that's about it.

Subaru benefited immensely from what they learned with the BRZ - I'm not sure if the WRX and STi would handle as well as they do now, if not for the experience with the BRZ.