follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB

Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB Problems, issues, recalls, TSBs


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-23-2023, 12:47 AM   #1
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Steering Issue

Back to the forums for the Third time for a problem thats not self explanatory.

16 BRZ its having a handling issue, When Cornering and turn the wheel a it will turn and is responsive but you get to a point where it will pull super hard in whatever direction youre turning. So far ive replaced the Wheel Hubs which the bearings were bad, Ive replaced the Tire rod ends from P2M to now stock. Both slightly fixed the issue where originally it would have this issue with turning within the first 5 degrees of angle. tire rod ends made it 15 and now i replaced the ball bearings tonight and its 30 degrees before it pulls super hard now. Although it may just be placebo effect. It also has a ABS and traction control light which may or may not related, I dont have a ABS code reader.

Anyways, Im lost on where to go from here. Theres a couple more things i can list that may be an issue but I want what the most likely issue is instead of throwing more and more money into it when ive already swapped the engine and attempting to daily drive it. I cant tell if the Struts are out or the springs are cut. but i hear a clunking pretty much all the time when driving. The car has Godspeed control arms which looks when the wheels are full lock have been adjusted for more angle. The tires are stretched on F1R F21s 18x9.5 or 10.5. With Valera Sport 225/45 with good tread. Im not sure where to go from here should i research how to adjust control arms and try to get the steering angle back close to stock. Struts? Get wheels balanced or get new tires that are not stretched?

Thank you so much in advance!
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 07:51 AM   #2
Grady
Senior Member
 
Grady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Drives: BRZ Yellow, 2019 Ranger, 2011 Evora
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,686
Thanks: 352
Thanked 1,475 Times in 771 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
So many many mods that screw up handling it is hard to diagnose looking at words. Did you modify it? If so put it back to stock. Get the ABS codes and report back. If that is not the problem it needs to be fixed anyway.
Grady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 10:11 AM   #3
Opie
Senior Member
 
Opie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: '13 BRZ TLM Spec
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,961
Thanks: 1,612
Thanked 2,325 Times in 1,000 Posts
Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Have you re-centered the steering angle sensor?
__________________
2013 BRZ Premium 6MT - Track Car, 2020 GMC Canyon Denali Duramax - Tow Vehicle, 2021 Forester Sport - Wife's Daily, 2016 Crosstrek - Daughter's Ride and always buying random flips...
Opie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 12:09 PM   #4
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grady View Post
So many many mods that screw up handling it is hard to diagnose looking at words. Did you modify it? If so put it back to stock. Get the ABS codes and report back. If that is not the problem it needs to be fixed anyway.
The only “Mod” Ive done so far is putting the 17 engine in it, other than that its all been maintenance from my end, What ive found installed from previous owners JDL uncatted headers, Straight pipe, Rocketbunny over fenders, then the previous parts i listed before, Nrg steering wheel? I believe? Thats all ive found so far.
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 12:20 PM   #5
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie View Post
Have you re-centered the steering angle sensor?
I havent, Could that be causing the pulling insanely hard on corners? to reset it, its behind the steering wheel and then turn the black dial all the way to the left then 3.25 to the right? It has a quick release wheel could that be part of that issue?
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 03:49 PM   #6
Opie
Senior Member
 
Opie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: '13 BRZ TLM Spec
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,961
Thanks: 1,612
Thanked 2,325 Times in 1,000 Posts
Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSW View Post
I havent, Could that be causing the pulling insanely hard on corners? to reset it, its behind the steering wheel and then turn the black dial all the way to the left then 3.25 to the right? It has a quick release wheel could that be part of that issue?
The steering angle sensor, among other things, tells the Electronic Power Steering which way the wheel is pointing. If it is not centered after every suspension repair/mod/alignment it can do all kinds of funky things.

When you pull the codes, which code(s) is it?
__________________
2013 BRZ Premium 6MT - Track Car, 2020 GMC Canyon Denali Duramax - Tow Vehicle, 2021 Forester Sport - Wife's Daily, 2016 Crosstrek - Daughter's Ride and always buying random flips...
Opie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2023, 05:41 PM   #7
Falkon240
Member
 
Falkon240's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Drives: 2013 FRS
Location: Riverside County
Posts: 84
Thanks: 37
Thanked 34 Times in 26 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I had issues similar to what you're describing. Get the steering wheel/hub/qr off.

Take a look at the clock spring behind the aftermarket hub make sure that the arrow is within the section it's designated for.

The calibration of the clock spring determines how much steering assist the car has.
__________________

IG
2013 Scion FR-S
2022 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 Bison
1998 Nissan 240SX KA24DET
Falkon240 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Falkon240 For This Useful Post:
whataboutbob (03-25-2023)
Old 03-25-2023, 04:22 PM   #8
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie View Post
The steering angle sensor, among other things, tells the Electronic Power Steering which way the wheel is pointing. If it is not centered after every suspension repair/mod/alignment it can do all kinds of funky things.

When you pull the codes, which code(s) is it?
Who ever did my quick release decided to take out the stock wheel decided to be cheap and took the clockspring out, i havent had time to do the codes and i dont have my own reader for anything thats not CEL. Im guessing it’s directly related to the clockspring since its completely missing…
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DSW For This Useful Post:
Opie (03-25-2023), whataboutbob (03-25-2023)
Old 03-25-2023, 04:23 PM   #9
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkon240 View Post
I had issues similar to what you're describing. Get the steering wheel/hub/qr off.

Take a look at the clock spring behind the aftermarket hub make sure that the arrow is within the section it's designated for.

The calibration of the clock spring determines how much steering assist the car has.
Thank you, it definitely makes sense figuring my clockspring is completely gone and the steering angle sensor is just hanging so its getting no input at all.
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DSW For This Useful Post:
whataboutbob (03-25-2023)
Old 04-16-2023, 08:15 PM   #10
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Replaced the stretched tires for tires that properly fit on my wheel width and it seems to have fixed the issue!
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2023, 03:14 AM   #11
Clipdat
Proud of BOXER
 
Clipdat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: Subaru Boxer
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 8,148
Thanks: 7,073
Thanked 6,846 Times in 3,675 Posts
Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Gonna fix the steering wheel too?
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by humfrz
I'm old and lazy
Clipdat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2023, 01:21 PM   #12
DSW
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2023
Drives: 2016 BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 13
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clipdat View Post
Gonna fix the steering wheel too?
Yeah ive already ordered the parts just gotta wait forever for ship times. That will fix the traction control issue. so hopefully steering will be fully fixed and ill have the car back to the way it was intended to drive
DSW is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DSW For This Useful Post:
Clipdat (04-17-2023)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Steering issue under braking ! AJ PwR Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting 146 04-25-2023 05:47 PM
Steering issue? edrokone BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 6 05-16-2020 02:58 AM
Steering Issue at Watkins Glen milhouse Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting 20 09-27-2018 03:38 PM
Possible Steering Issue ? TJB_902 Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 5 06-24-2015 01:38 AM
Steering wheel issue Khalis Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 1 05-04-2013 01:19 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.