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Old 08-10-2020, 12:38 PM   #10921
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are you talking difference in ambient temps pre blower, like stock MAF location on traditional ESC setup? or have you relocated the MAF to post blower and compared dyno runs or pull times between post 90F and 50F post blower temps?

ambient temps going into the blower will be much more of an impact to power compared to post blower temps.

Every 5.4F is about 1% less air density. but this would only apply to pre blower.
In the new set up MAF has been relocated to post blowers, so that does have some affect. But unlike the original setup which used the airbox my current setup the blowers pull in air from the bumper. So when the blowers are working it's much more ambient air going in.

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Old 08-10-2020, 12:39 PM   #10922
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No no
I'm talking about ambient air temp not IAT. The temp as displayed on the dash gauge. You know, the difference between if it's hot or cold outside.
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Old 08-10-2020, 12:41 PM   #10923
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I'm talking about ambient air temp not IAT. The temp as displayed on the dash gauge. You know, the difference between if it's hot or cold outside.
Oh sorry yes, the current dynos were done when it was 90 degrees outside and the single phantom dynos were done when it was 60 degrees outside

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Old 08-10-2020, 12:43 PM   #10924
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are you talking difference in ambient temps pre blower, like stock MAF location on traditional ESC setup? or have you relocated the MAF to post blower and compared dyno runs or pull times between post 90F and 50F post blower temps?

ambient temps going into the blower will be much more of an impact to power compared to post blower temps.

Every 5.4F is about 1% less air density. but this would only apply to pre blower.
No no.
I'm talking about ambient air temp. The temp as displayed on the dash gauge. You know, the difference between if the weather is hot or cold outside.
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Old 08-10-2020, 12:45 PM   #10925
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I don't know what happened!
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Old 08-10-2020, 01:38 PM   #10926
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In the new set up MAF has been relocated to post blowers, so that does have some affect. But unlike the original setup which used the airbox my current setup the blowers pull in air from the bumper. So when the blowers are working it's much more ambient air going in.

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I know your setup is different than his. My comment was to him.

All these people talking about IAT are really referring to ambient pre blower air, this is completely different than your IAT temp that is located and reading being post blower. For all him or anyone knows there post blower IATs are the same as yours or possibly even worse.

Pre blower temps will have a bigger impact on performance compared to post blower IAT temps. So not a good comparison.
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Old 08-10-2020, 01:50 PM   #10927
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No no.
I'm talking about ambient air temp. The temp as displayed on the dash gauge. You know, the difference between if the weather is hot or cold outside.
Yeah, those temps are completely different and not what he is inquiring.

Ambient temps or pre blower MAF IAT temps which are usually pretty similar to each other (unless MAF is relocated post blower like his is to get a real IAT reading) will have a much bigger difference on performance, compared to post blower "real" IAT temps going into the engine vs ambient (what he is inquiring about) The question is people who are boosted, what are their before blower (typically at or near ambient) and after blower temps. is a 30-40F delta like his considered normal.
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Old 08-10-2020, 02:48 PM   #10928
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I'm gonna try a few things to bring down my temps a bit without hindering the boost. Idk if it will work but I'mma give it a shot. Just to try and make those extra 5 ponies

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Old 08-10-2020, 05:50 PM   #10929
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I'm gonna try a few things to bring down my temps a bit without hindering the boost. Idk if it will work but I'mma give it a shot. Just to try and make those extra 5 ponies

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Replacing the aluminum MAF housing with a plastic one would help and gold heat wrapping everything from throttle body back will make a surprising difference. Not night or day but still effective.

Space looks limited for a heat plate for the engine bay off boost filter but that would probably drop IAT another couple degrees depending on what you came up with. Which might help lessen MAF heat soak effecting on boost reading.

Not sure how the ESC does with rain/water? Could get hood vents a hood vent near or above the engine bay filter would do wonders for off boost IATs. Maybe a protective shroud for the ESC from rain if it’s close to the vent.
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Old 08-14-2020, 09:45 AM   #10930
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I was replacing dump batteries and i accidently did not disconnect cable that goes control unit and touched battery terminal less than 1 sec then boom! I think i shorted that control unit. I am wondering that unit has some kind of fuse to protect its unit? Stupid me didnt think of it. I shouldve disconnect that red cable first. I completely screwed? Or can be fixed?

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Old 08-15-2020, 06:50 PM   #10931
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I was replacing dump batteries and i accidently did not disconnect cable that goes control unit and touched battery terminal less than 1 sec then boom! I think i shorted that control unit. I am wondering that unit has some kind of fuse to protect its unit? Stupid me didnt think of it. I shouldve disconnect that red cable first. I completely screwed? Or can be fixed?

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I sent you a photo on your sale post. But this has happened to me before did the boom happen at the batteries or controller because went it happens to me just the batteries went bad not the controller. Keep the batteries for a month and ask for a refund. That's what I did just said hey I've had these for a month and they went bad already and they sent me new ones.

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I sent you a photo on your sale post. But this has happened to me before did the boom happen at the batteries or controller because went it happens to me just the batteries went bad not the controller. Keep the batteries for a month and ask for a refund. That's what I did just said hey I've had these for a month and they went bad already and they sent me new ones.

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really? i used multimeter and battery read voltage 13v
yeah i took apart and fuse is fine too~!!
also, just call battery mart and batteries went bad? then i dont have to send replacement? what do they ask?

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really? i used multimeter and battery read voltage 13v
yeah i took apart and fuse is fine too~!!
also, just call battery mart and batteries went bad? then i dont have to send replacement? what do they ask?
They're going to ask to send the ones you bought just send them back they will test them and confirm they are bad, and send new ones they really don't ask alot of questions.

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They're going to ask to send the ones you bought just send them back they will test them and confirm they are bad, and send new ones they really don't ask alot of questions.

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Lol when I did the batteries were already 9 months old I think the batteries have a 1-2 year warranty.

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