Water pump driven by the accessory belt?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

With electric power steering, fuel pump, ECU that only works within a certain voltage, DLRs always on, and all the other electric powered parts of a modern car? My money is on dead enough battery to not run before boil over. The battery doesn't have to be completely drained to shut down the car.

No EPS without alternator. Current-limited DRL? Returnless fuel system? I'll take that bet any day.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Mr.ac

Duh, usually when I partake in such mind altering activities, my mind does wonder about how we humans are such fragile creatures. I mean we put our very lives on a 4 3x5 pads (mostly) to stop 2 tons of rolling steel and aluminum from crashing or making us into human pancakes.

That's exactly the reason why I always thought we should have rubber roads and concrete tires .........


humfrz

[n0thing]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, now, actually he is correct ....... the drive belt breaks - the alternator quits working - the battery runs out of electrons - the spark plugs won't fire - the engine quits running ........


humfrz

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Oh, come on. Which happens first by a long shot, boilover, or dead battery?

Quit yanking my chain, old man.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

With electric power steering, fuel pump, ECU that only works within a certain voltage, DLRs always on, and all the other electric powered parts of a modern car? My money is on dead enough battery to not run before boil over. The battery doesn't have to be completely drained to shut down the car.

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

No EPS without alternator. Current-limited DRL? Returnless fuel system? I'll take that bet any day.

Thanks @humfrz @Tcoat

It depends on the driving condition too. Whether it's at the track pushing the engine to redline with extreme temperature, or regular city driving with bumper to bumper traffic. Either way though, the vehicle will shut off

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by n0thing

Thanks @humfrz @Tcoat

It depends on the driving condition too. Whether it's at the track pushing the engine to redline with extreme temperature, or regular city driving with bumper to bumper traffic. Either way though, the vehicle will shut off

What are you talking about? On what facts are basing this horse shit?

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

What are you talking about? On what facts are basing this horse shit?

OK, this calls for an easy experiment.

We will need 4 participants.

Each with a twin.

Remove the serpentine belt.

Start the car.

Drive the cars at 45 MPH till they quit running.

Read the temperature gauge ....... read the voltage of the battery.

Charge the battery and start (or try to start) the car.

If it starts and runs OK, @Tcoat , @n0thing and humfrz are correct ..... @Ultramaroon is wrong.

OK, @n0thing ...... you go first and report back.

humfrz - retired scienteeeeeest ...........

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

What are you talking about? On what facts are basing this horse shit?

Watch out folks ol Ultramaroon is getten grumpy tonight ........ his stocking hanging from the fireplace must have been a bit light this year ......






humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

OK, this calls for an easy experiment.

Been there, done that. I don't talk shit. I talk from experience.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Been there, done that. I don't talk shit. I talk from experience.

OK, let's see the raw data from your experiment ...... let's see if will stand up to a pier review .......





humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

OK, let's see the raw data from your experiment ...... let's see if will stand up to a pier review .......

I'm not enjoying this. After you have disabled your alternator and driven around for a spell, let's compare notes.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I'm not enjoying this. After you have disabled your alternator and driven around for a spell, let's compare notes.

I'm sorry to hear you had a failed alternator experience ......

I feel badly that I was rubbing salt in the wound ......

Please forgive me ........


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I'm sorry to hear you had a failed alternator experience ......

One day months ago I removed the accessory belt to prove to myself the car would start and run on battery only. I know Tcoat was in the thread where we discussed it. I just figured you had followed along.

I know enough about the power requirements of this car, and have enough experience limping home with failed alternators on previous cars, to state with confidence that without an accessory belt, this thing will run on battery waaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than it will take to overheat.

I'm happy to discuss the topic in earnest, and admit my pu55y hurt a little when you assigned me homework.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

One day months ago I removed the accessory belt to prove to myself the car would start and run on battery only.

I know enough about the power requirements of this car, and have enough experience limping home with failed alternators on previous cars, to state with confidence that without an accessory belt, this thing will run on battery waaaaaaaaaaaaay longer than it will take to overheat.

I'm happy to discuss the topic in earnest?

Well, after doing some research on several batteries, it appears the average RC (Reserve Capacity) is about 60 minutes.

So, even if the FR-S battery was half that, the engine would overheat, due to the water pump not running, before the battery would run out of juice.

So, there ........ @Tcoat was WRONG !.........


humfrz

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by qqzj

This is pretty new to me. All my older cars have crank-driven water pumps.

Did you actually think about what you wrote before you posted?

What did you think was driving the accessory belt, some random motor? It's all connected to the crank.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by mav1178

Did you actually think about what you wrote before you posted?

What did you think was driving the accessory belt, some random motor? It's all connected to the crank.

I gave him that. I scratched my head until I worked my way back to the timing belt. I think that's what he meant.