follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing

Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing Relating to suspension, chassis, and brakes. Sponsored by 949 Racing.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-03-2011, 11:18 PM   #29
Racecomp Engineering
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI
Location: Severn, MD
Posts: 5,405
Thanks: 3,419
Thanked 7,241 Times in 2,962 Posts
Mentioned: 303 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to Racecomp Engineering
Subaru generally is VERY conservative with the balance of the car....lots of understeer tuned in through the springs and bars. Not a problem to change.

We'll get the spring rates as soon as we can.

- Andrew
Racecomp Engineering is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2011, 03:36 PM   #30
2fast4you
Senior Member
 
2fast4you's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: 2006 Scion tC RS 2.0
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 444
Thanks: 24
Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave-ROR View Post
eh? Old Greg said that
Sorry Dave ROR and Old Greg, one too many Blue Moons. :happy0180:

Anywhoo... I'd be curious to finally read a head-to-head review between the FR-S and BRZ on the same road course under the same conditions. Subaru has tightly controlled BRZ test drives at their test track while Toyota has let reviewers hoon it up on their grand prix track, so you can't glean any real comparison of the handling characteristics.
__________________
Brake. Turn. Accelerate. Repeat as necessary.
2fast4you is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2011, 09:18 PM   #31
fatoni
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430
Location: socal
Posts: 4,416
Thanks: 599
Thanked 1,442 Times in 787 Posts
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering View Post
Subaru generally is VERY conservative with the balance of the car....lots of understeer tuned in through the springs and bars. Not a problem to change.

We'll get the spring rates as soon as we can.

- Andrew
i think in the past that has been because of the influence of prodrive and what subaru is doing off of asphalt. this thing is a road car so i am curious to see if it follows suit
fatoni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2011, 09:46 PM   #32
coyote
Senior Member
 
coyote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Drives: Slowly
Location: brisbane.qld.au
Posts: 1,064
Thanks: 212
Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by old greg View Post
Now, it's possible that Subaru changed the spring rates, either slightly stiffer front or softer rear
I hate all the posts on here that claim to be quoting a source, but don't reference it ... however, I did read an Australian review that quoted a Subaru source that the front springs are softer and the rears are firmer on the 86 than the BRZ.

How's that for hearsay?

Last edited by coyote; 12-05-2011 at 10:44 PM.
coyote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2011, 10:29 PM   #33
Dave-ROR
Site Moderator
 
Dave-ROR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Drives: Stuff
Location: Florida
Posts: 10,317
Thanks: 955
Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts
Mentioned: 262 Post(s)
Tagged: 8 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by coyote View Post
I hate all the posts on here that claim to be quoting a source, but don't reference it ... however, I did read an Australian review that quoted a Subaru source that the front springs are softer and the rears are firmer on the BRZ than the 86.

How's that for hearsay?
Exact opposite from Motor Trend's Subaru of America source.. who knows lol
__________________
-Dave
Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback
DD: 2005 Acura TSX
Tow: 2022 F-450
Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX
Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build
FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles
Dave-ROR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2011, 10:43 PM   #34
coyote
Senior Member
 
coyote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Drives: Slowly
Location: brisbane.qld.au
Posts: 1,064
Thanks: 212
Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave-ROR View Post
Exact opposite from Motor Trend's Subaru of America source.. who knows lol
Good spotting Dave. That would be because I wrote it the wrong way around. Will fix it.
coyote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2011, 01:18 AM   #35
subatoy
Senior Member
 
subatoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Drives: subatoy
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 667
Thanks: 32
Thanked 198 Times in 106 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm expecting this car to have the same aftermarket support as the WRX/STI so you will have TONS to choose from.
I will probably throw the springs away the first day to fix the bad wheel gap.
subatoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2011, 12:52 PM   #36
Racecomp Engineering
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI
Location: Severn, MD
Posts: 5,405
Thanks: 3,419
Thanked 7,241 Times in 2,962 Posts
Mentioned: 303 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Send a message via AIM to Racecomp Engineering
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatoni View Post
i think in the past that has been because of the influence of prodrive and what subaru is doing off of asphalt. this thing is a road car so i am curious to see if it follows suit
There's that, but in the case of the GR (08-10) STI i think they just plain screwed up (or went too far with building in understeer) and then fixed things with the 2011 STI suspension. Just my opinion but looking at the spring rates not changing much between the GD and early GR chassis while the rear suspension layout completely changed they clearly realized that they didn't do it right the first time....

- drew
Racecomp Engineering is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tuning shops already planning ryridesmotox Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 10 06-21-2012 08:42 AM
MR2 owners - suspension experience Abflug Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 17 08-11-2011 09:35 AM
Front Suspension 'discovery'? Dimman BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 13 07-23-2011 08:22 PM
Tuning Jordo! Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 54 09-05-2010 05:29 PM
Lets talk suspension Midship Runabout Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 42 05-20-2010 12:51 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.