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Old 11-18-2014, 01:22 PM   #29
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I know I've asked before but what are your go-to forums for SA/FB's?

I've got a hankering for dorito power, given current economic uncertainties I'm tempted to dump the Scion and pick one of these up and bank the >$10k.
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If you want a reliable brother, just get a Z31 300ZX, non turbo.

It's a bit slow but...body roll can be quite fun.
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I know I've asked before but what are your go-to forums for SA/FB's?

I've got a hankering for dorito power, given current economic uncertainties I'm tempted to dump the Scion and pick one of these up and bank the >$10k.
http://www.rx7club.com/


great group of guys there, for anything rotary powered
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If you want a reliable brother, just get a Z31 300ZX, non turbo.

It's a bit slow but...body roll can be quite fun.


a well taken care of rotary is very reliable, you just have to know what to do/no to do with the car. my first one had 80K original engine when i sold it, my parts car is a 110K original engine. its not uncommon if cared for correctly
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based on demoon's post I decided to ramble, instead of deleting per usual I'll just throw it up there

To be fair the naturally aspirated ones have a good reliability track record, at least as reliable as any other sports car of the era and with only a handful of moving parts rebuilds are reasonable, hitting >100k with regular maintenance and zero issues is the norm assuming the owner does the maintenance required and doesn't try any funny business.

I think the only interesting sports car of the time that could give it a run for it's money in terms of ownership costs, reliability, and smiles would be the MR2.

It would be hard to convince me to go Z31 over a MK2 Supra, and then you're entering the realm of Porsche 928 and 944's. Holy shit the early 80's kind of rocked, gas was cheap again, we just spent five years figuring out how to make cars lighter and cheaper and meet emissions without destroying power, even the Trans-Ams and Mustangs weren't too terrible.

Fuck I gotta buy an RX-7 before prices go through the roof, it will be a weird day when SA/FB are rivaling the prices of equivalent quality FD's, probably within five years.
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based on demoon's post I decided to ramble, instead of deleting per usual I'll just throw it up there

To be fair the naturally aspirated ones have a good reliability track record, at least as reliable as any other sports car of the era and with only a handful of moving parts rebuilds are reasonable, hitting >100k with regular maintenance and zero issues is the norm assuming the owner does the maintenance required and doesn't try any funny business.

I think the only interesting sports car of the time that could give it a run for it's money in terms of ownership costs, reliability, and smiles would be the MR2.

It would be hard to convince me to go Z31 over a MK2 Supra, and then you're entering the realm of Porsche 928 and 944's. Holy shit the early 80's kind of rocked, gas was cheap again, we just spent five years figuring out how to make cars lighter and cheaper and meet emissions without destroying power, even the Trans-Ams and Mustangs weren't too terrible.

Fuck I gotta buy an RX-7 before prices go through the roof, it will be a weird day when SA/FB are rivaling the prices of equivalent quality FD's, probably within five years.
Exactly, the norm for the RX-7 is 100k miles, the Z31 norm for N/A is 300k miles. The Z31's are dirt cheap and unlike many cars from the 80's, very slowly apprenticing.

The 928's, 924 and even 944's are going up in price. Look at 928 prices, you use to be able to pick up a show quality one for $8k.


But the Z31's are still in part the red headed step child sports car of Nissan. My post shouldn't be taken all that seriously.
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Exactly, the norm for the RX-7 is 100k miles, the Z31 norm for N/A is 300k miles. The Z31's are dirt cheap and unlike many cars from the 80's, very slowly apprenticing.

The 928's, 924 and even 944's are going up in price. Look at 928 prices, you use to be able to pick up a show quality one for $8k.


But the Z31's are still in part the red headed step child sports car of Nissan. My post shouldn't be taken all that seriously.
It's a rare enthusiast who buys a 30+ year old sports car and sets out to put >100k miles on it, the RX-7 is safely reliable over 100k it's not like you can't perform health checks and watch the signs, not like it's going to grenade on you unexpectedly if you know your shit. Guess that's the key though, you don't have to know shit except how to keep track of oil changes for the Nissan (in the same vein MR2).

Depends on the year and trim for those Porsche's, all three can be had in project daily driver capable condition for under $8k if speed and looks are not a priority and you are capable of doing your own wrenching.

Went and grabbed the first viable listing for each, all are definitely project cars, not drive and enjoy cars (otherwise they'd be priced much higher) but at first glance all are worth a look:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4766293831.html
http://monterey.craigslist.org/cto/4739692564.html
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/4757315836.html

Now that you have me thinking I'm hard pressed to think of a sports car from Nissan I like more (excluding Datsun here) than the Z31... Personally at least, for the money and era though it doesn't come close to top five for me.

Edit: Hope you're not taking me seriously either
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lucky for you guys, I see about one really nice one a year around here lol this one was totally fate, he was selling the car and would only trade for an S2000, luckily i was bored with my honda so it was an easy choice
Please, tell me he put cash on top as part of this trade...
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a well taken care of rotary is very reliable, you just have to know what to do/no to do with the car.
Drive it normally, maintain it religiously, check oil often, change oil often, still only get 1/8th to 1/3rd the lifespan of a piston engine...

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my first one had 80K original engine when i sold it, my parts car is a 110K original engine. its not uncommon if cared for correctly
Those aren't exactly high numbers.
My pristine and perfectly maintained '90 RX-7 blew apex seals at 106k miles Not a single rotor-head was remotely surprised...

Apparently the older ones are more reliable, though. My info is that to meet emissions standards, they had to cut back on the amount of oil injected. If I go rotary again ever, I'll probably run premix...
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Please, tell me he put cash on top as part of this trade...

of course, in reality the honda was getting worn out, it had 113K on it, burned oil, knocked on startup, soft top was shot etc etc, it needed a lot....but i did get 2 rx-7's and cash for my honda, i was happy with it
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Drive it normally, maintain it religiously, check oil often, change oil often, still only get 1/8th to 1/3rd the lifespan of a piston engine...


Those aren't exactly high numbers.
My pristine and perfectly maintained '90 RX-7 blew apex seals at 106k miles Not a single rotor-head was remotely surprised...

Apparently the older ones are more reliable, though. My info is that to meet emissions standards, they had to cut back on the amount of oil injected. If I go rotary again ever, I'll probably run premix...


correct, the 12A is a lot more reliable than the 13B's were, i only said my mileage because those are the ones i can personally say i've been around and driven without issue. mine has no emissions control systems on it anymore, just a carb and an engine
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