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h22mike · 12-07-2014, 10:25 PM

It runs great , idles good , check engine light not on , no oil leaks and it just feels normal . Besides today event with the smoke and all @Dipstik-sportech

Dipstik-sportech · 12-07-2014, 10:26 PM

Smell the exhaust, if it smells sweet then you're burning coolant for sure. This isn't condensation by chance is it? How cold is it out? Check the coolant level and look for any external leaks. Do you have a wideband?

h22mike · 12-07-2014, 10:34 PM

Yeah I'll check, No wideband

@Dipstik-sportech

h22mike · 12-07-2014, 10:38 PM

I'm sure I didn't blow a head gasket cause Revving in neutral it doesn't smoke

Dipstik-sportech · 12-07-2014, 10:58 PM

It might be only leaking under boost, boost causes increased increased cylinder pressure and in turn causes the leak. I can't stress this enough, GET A WIDEBAND!!!!

h22mike · 12-07-2014, 11:01 PM

Yeah @Dipstik-sportech I need to get it to Phoenix for a tune and eventually get a wideband

Reaper · 12-07-2014, 11:05 PM

I just did a head gaskets on an ej that would only burn coolant when boosting when it would lift the head. If you stayed out of boost it was fine. But it consumed coolant and dumped sweet smelling smoke just after boost. You need to stop driving it and figure out what's wrong. Get a wideband and get a tune.

D_Thissen · 12-07-2014, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h22mike

Yeah @Dipstik-sportech I need to get it to Phoenix for a tune and eventually get a wideband

I think @Dipstik-sportech means get a wideband like yesterday, not eventually. They aren't that expensive...
http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/aem-...-a-f-1304.html

h22mike · 12-07-2014, 11:17 PM

Dope! @D_Thissen

Kiske · 12-07-2014, 11:18 PM

Check your AFR's sometimes if your running lean it can produce brief white smoke at heavy throttle.

White = Coolant/Condensation
Blue = Oil
Black = Fuel

If it is condensation then it should only briefly occur upon startups and not while the car is running/warmed up. It can be hard to tell the tint between white and blue smoke so might also get a friend to give a second opinion.

I'd start with a visual inspection of the oil/coolant. First checking oil/coolant levels. Then look for any cross contamination. If you have a catch can, also check it for coolant as well.

If your headgasket is leaking you ought to have bubbles (while running) or lower coolant levels than you should due to the leak. Keep in mind if it is a small leak it may be hard to notice the coolant levels drop. A leak down test should be done which usually involves pushing air into the spark plugs to check for bubbles through the radiator car. I'm not sure if/how you could do one on the FA20 without raising/lowering the engine due to the limited space.

If your headgasket is blown or about to go you should also notice higher oil temperatures soon followed by possible overheating.

Dipstik-sportech · 12-07-2014, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h22mike

Yeah @Dipstik-sportech I need to get it to Phoenix for a tune and eventually get a wideband

Bro it's not an eventually thing. I bought mine before I ordered my kit.

h22mike · 12-07-2014, 11:30 PM

Ok

h22mike · 12-07-2014, 11:31 PM

I'll get one asap @Dipstik-sportech @D_Thissen

12-07-2014, 10:26 PM	#30
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Smell the exhaust, if it smells sweet then you're burning coolant for sure. This isn't condensation by chance is it? How cold is it out? Check the coolant level and look for any external leaks. Do you have a wideband? __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

12-07-2014, 10:58 PM	#33
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It might be only leaking under boost, boost causes increased increased cylinder pressure and in turn causes the leak. I can't stress this enough, GET A WIDEBAND!!!! __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

12-07-2014, 11:05 PM	#35
Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I just did a head gaskets on an ej that would only burn coolant when boosting when it would lift the head. If you stayed out of boost it was fine. But it consumed coolant and dumped sweet smelling smoke just after boost. You need to stop driving it and figure out what's wrong. Get a wideband and get a tune. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

12-07-2014, 11:18 PM	#38
Kiske Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: RX-7 / BRZ Location: USA Posts: 2,343 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 2,501 Times in 1,081 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check your AFR's sometimes if your running lean it can produce brief white smoke at heavy throttle. White = Coolant/Condensation Blue = Oil Black = Fuel If it is condensation then it should only briefly occur upon startups and not while the car is running/warmed up. It can be hard to tell the tint between white and blue smoke so might also get a friend to give a second opinion. I'd start with a visual inspection of the oil/coolant. First checking oil/coolant levels. Then look for any cross contamination. If you have a catch can, also check it for coolant as well. If your headgasket is leaking you ought to have bubbles (while running) or lower coolant levels than you should due to the leak. Keep in mind if it is a small leak it may be hard to notice the coolant levels drop. A leak down test should be done which usually involves pushing air into the spark plugs to check for bubbles through the radiator car. I'm not sure if/how you could do one on the FA20 without raising/lowering the engine due to the limited space. If your headgasket is blown or about to go you should also notice higher oil temperatures soon followed by possible overheating. __________________ //2013 World Rally Blue BRZ Limited FBM Turbo--gone //2018 Crystal White Pearl BRZ Ts 2.2l Harrop Supercharged

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12-07-2014, 10:25 PM	#29
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It runs great , idles good , check engine light not on , no oil leaks and it just feels normal . Besides today event with the smoke and all @Dipstik-sportech

12-07-2014, 10:34 PM	#31
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah I'll check, No wideband @Dipstik-sportech

12-07-2014, 10:38 PM	#32
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm sure I didn't blow a head gasket cause Revving in neutral it doesn't smoke

12-07-2014, 11:01 PM	#34
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah @Dipstik-sportech I need to get it to Phoenix for a tune and eventually get a wideband

12-07-2014, 11:17 PM	#37
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dope! @D_Thissen

12-07-2014, 11:30 PM	#40
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok

12-07-2014, 11:31 PM	#41
h22mike Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: gt86 Location: el paso Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll get one asap @Dipstik-sportech @D_Thissen

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