follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Xero Limit
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-11-2019, 11:29 AM   #85
Atmo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Drives: TBA
Location: FL350
Posts: 603
Thanks: 447
Thanked 583 Times in 335 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquachulator View Post
I guess they tuned it for fuel economy and they never really tuned it right for performance.

Maybe they should just take the programming from the 8 speeds in the Lexus products.....(those ones are apparently very good)

Yeah, I think you're on to something. It would be so aggravating to most anyone here.

The thing is, the class action lawsuit has to do with 2-3 other alleged defects in the 8A/T from "shift shock", "failure to disengage at a stop", and "slipping" on acceleration (the most frequent complaint I've read that's alleged to be a safety defect when attempting to overtake).
Atmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2019, 01:34 PM   #86
WolfpackS2k
Senior Member
 
WolfpackS2k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Drives: '06 Cayman S, '17 GTI Sport
Location: NC
Posts: 2,318
Thanks: 2,107
Thanked 1,205 Times in 716 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav1178 View Post
sorry for the late reply to this post, but if you look at Honda Civic Type-Rs all day, you'd understand the same thing corporate executives understand: there's a huge market for this type of car.

Honda can't keep up with demand for the Type-R, plain and simple. Hate on the car all we want but it sells and the demand isn't slowing down.

For years, people complained about the Camry being too plain or boring. Now Toyota does something wild to it, and everyone complains about the mods.
To which I counter, imagine how many they would sell if the car had less obnoxious and less fake styling?!?! You can still stand out (from the base model crap the car is based on) without resorting to this sort of junk.

It would appear most designers that actually want their cars to look good in 10+ years have retired.
__________________
'17 VW GTI Sport
'06 Porsche Cayman S

'13 SWP BRZ-L - Innovate Supercharged - RIP, claimed by VIR T10

'07 S2000 - DD & track rat - sold
'92 GS-R - 300k club member - sold
WolfpackS2k is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to WolfpackS2k For This Useful Post:
radroach (09-11-2019)
Old 09-11-2019, 02:28 PM   #87
Atmo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Drives: TBA
Location: FL350
Posts: 603
Thanks: 447
Thanked 583 Times in 335 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Another review, another slam on the 8A/T. Top speed limited to 112 mph? Seriously? That would eliminate any prospect of track day fun. No wonder they wouldn't allow journalists to lap the 1.5 mile oval, instead limiting testing to an autocross course:

"Like many Toyotas (and all Camrys), the TRD's eight-speed auto is geared way too tall for its engine, and it lacks any semblance of shift logic. On the former front, the Camry's first, second, and third gears top out at 30, 60, and 90 mph, respectively, leaving fourth through eighth gears to cover the 22-mph spread between the top of third gear and the Camry TRD's 112-mph top speed. On the latter, the transmission upshifts and downshifts seemingly at random, even with the car in Sport mode, hunting for whatever gear it thinks is the right one. Sport mode on the transmission, or the shift paddles, should help in theory, but instead they function more as a gear limiter as the transmission still continues to upshift and downshift as it pleases."

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyo...-drive-review/
Atmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2019, 05:52 PM   #88
radroach
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Drives: 13 BRZ
Location: usa
Posts: 1,990
Thanks: 1,000
Thanked 782 Times in 479 Posts
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
195hp pulling ~3100lbs
195 horsepower is way optimistic! Probably more like 120 horsepower.
radroach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2019, 10:18 PM   #89
mav1178
FT86Club Official Vendor
 
mav1178's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry
Location: 91745
Posts: 6,386
Thanks: 488
Thanked 5,866 Times in 2,923 Posts
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k View Post
To which I counter, imagine how many they would sell if the car had less obnoxious and less fake styling?!?! You can still stand out (from the base model crap the car is based on) without resorting to this sort of junk.

It would appear most designers that actually want their cars to look good in 10+ years have retired.
plenty of cars out there nowadays have fake styling down to an artform.

but don't forget... the beloved S2000 had fake vents in the front bumper and it was nothing "wild", it just needed to be there to look the part.
mav1178 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mav1178 For This Useful Post:
WolfpackS2k (09-16-2019)
Old 11-13-2019, 12:21 PM   #90
kmbkk
First 86 Driver Baby!
 
kmbkk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: FR-S, Flex, OC-135
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Posts: 1,701
Thanks: 477
Thanked 486 Times in 331 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Not sure if this is common knowledge, but it's new to me...

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/all-whe...mry-sedan-suvs
kmbkk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kmbkk For This Useful Post:
Atmo (11-13-2019)
Old 11-13-2019, 12:42 PM   #91
Atmo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Drives: TBA
Location: FL350
Posts: 603
Thanks: 447
Thanked 583 Times in 335 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmbkk View Post
Not sure if this is common knowledge, but it's new to me...

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/all-whe...mry-sedan-suvs
Yes, been discussed here before but it's official now. Parts-bin engineering exclusively for the North American market with the kinda, sorta, part-time AWD system deployed in RAV4.

https://pressroom.toyota.com/get-a-g...-drive-sedans/

Also in the pipe and what interests me more is the coming plug-in RAV4 and Camry hybrids.
Atmo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Atmo For This Useful Post:
kmbkk (11-13-2019)
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2020 Toyota 86??? Twin-Dragons Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 225 01-02-2019 12:33 PM
Tesla Shocks Us With New 2020 Roadster, Does 0-60 In 1.9 Sec! vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 67 12-14-2017 01:19 PM
RX-9 in 2020?? PNW FRS Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 66 12-11-2016 07:46 AM
Official: Nissan Concept 2020 Vision Gran Turismo revealed, hints future R36 GT-R vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 42 01-17-2016 02:28 AM
Nissan 2020 vs Toyota FT-1 vs Acura NSX vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 35 07-08-2014 05:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.