The tire rotation schedule in the official owner's manual cannot be correct

[HKz]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

I rotate maybe once a year or every 4k miles. The tires only last one or two rotations. How anybody could get 20-30k miles from a tire on this car is beyond me.

I got 50 K on my first set that came with both my current FRS and first FRS when I got them new and even then it never felt as though I was driving on ice but admittedly we have great road conditions over here..

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

I rotate maybe once a year or every 4k miles. The tires only last one or two rotations. How anybody could get 20-30k miles from a tire on this car is beyond me.

You tell-em, there, .... hot rod .....

[ZDan]

I've gotten 18k miles on 200tw "extreme performance" tires on my S2000 without rotating (staggered sizes). It's easy to do if it's 99.9% commuting miles if alignment is in order (minimized toe).

[sunami88]

Originally Posted by alphasaur

How I rotate:
Summer: Mount summer tires, tires with more meat go on rear since they see more wear for me.

Winter: Mount winters. tires with more meat go on rear since they see more wear for me.

So much this. I have a vernier caliper that I use to judge which tires go where. I don't even mark them when I take them off for the alternate season. Always bugged me when I asked Toyota not to rotate them since I was going to the other set in a month or two and they did anyways, but I'm getting offtopic now.

Side note: I have heard exactly one person (during my very short lived Motive Power Technician* Apprenticeship) that said switching tires left to right was bad for the bands. Now, he was the head of a major (local) construction company, so maybe it applies more to big ass dump trucks and/or legit load bearing F350's? Either way, I've brought it up with other car and mechanic-type people and they've all scratched their heads. Not all just younger guys, either.


* Why my college refused to just put "MECHANIC" on the certificate I'll never know. Motive Power Tech probably just sounds more fancy and "college-ly".

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Brz-123

I'll answer it in three ways.

Firstly if you are using logic to refute the user manual, you should listen to and debate the logic others are giving and not bring the manual back in.

Secondly , I have had and still have other cars in my life and their user manuals and past experience has taught me to do it the way I am telling you.

Thirdly , manuals are meant to make it idiot proof. People change tyres to directional and asymmetric tread ones when they original ones wear out / or for more grip, different weather conditions etc . With those kind of tyres you are technically limited to only one type of rotation, front to back and vice versa. The Primacy tyres that it comes with are symmetric and non directional. So they can be moved around any way.

Now see what a tyre manufacturer says who is the specialist at it not a car manufacturer

https://www.bridgestonetire.com/trea...tire-rotation#



Learn if you wish, ignore if you wish. Good luck!





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OK, I read the reference. It said:

“Tire rotation means periodically changing the position of each of the tires on your vehicle. You should rotate your tires as recommended by the vehicle manufacturer, or every 5,000 miles”.

[wolffbite]

FRS manual seems to differ from the BRZ one... mine shows crossing tires. I doubt it matters that much then.

Mine get rotated every time I switch between summer and winter setups. So twice a year.

45k on my winters and 30k on my summers and they are all wearing evenly.

[Westen86]

1-0 1-0
1-1
2-1 2-1
2-2
3-2 3-2
3-3

There is nothing wrong with waiting to rotate. you end at the same result while paying for less rotates. I hope my "diagram" makes some sense.

[tzhu07]

Originally Posted by Westen86

There is nothing wrong with waiting to rotate. you end at the same result while paying for less rotates. I hope my "diagram" makes some sense.

I rotated my tires at Discount Tire, which they did for free. I didn't have to buy tires from them first. They're really fast service too.

The one time I got a flat, they fixed the flat for free as well.

[thomasmryan]

when i am ready for fresh meat, the car goes up on stands. i remove the stick on weights and clean the rims.



there is a nice shop in knoxville that has the newest hunter 'road force' balancing machine. the heavy wheels on the slower cars are dynamically balanced to avoid the castor shimmy and zoom-zoom cars are statically balanced with the weights inline with the hub mating surface. the place is a little expensive but they do line up the dot on the tire to the stem and don't scratch your junk.


rotations are every few thousand and strictly front to rear. the rear tires get inside wear and the fronts get outside wear so it is really fun to drive after a rotation. i slip and slide but avoid spinning. about 10k miles of fun on 50k tires.

[Dake]

I personally do the full front to back opposite side, back to front same side rotation with one exception - if I have directional tires.

Some tires have an "inside" and "outside", and some tires ALSO have a direction of travel and changing sides will have them turning opposite that direction which can affect water dispersal and the like.

But to the original question: I get what you're saying but I don't think it's going to make a huge difference in the overall life of any given tire.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by Dake

I personally do the full front to back opposite side, back to front same side rotation with one exception - if I have directional tires.

Some tires have an "inside" and "outside", and some tires ALSO have a direction of travel and changing sides will have them turning opposite that direction which can affect water dispersal and the like.

I do the same!

[Jordanwolf]

Bruh just put the back on da front and the front on da back.

My last braincell thinks this discussion is lame if it does not pertain to hyper miling.

[soundman98]

i just rotate my tires around the corner. usually about 15-20mph.

[pushrod]

I only "rotate" when I'm changing between winters and summers. The least worn go on the back, and the most worn go on the front.

Some people will skip rotating tires and just replace pairs as they need to be replaced, which IMO is fine...

I wouldn't do this on an AWD car since the drivetrain is more sensitive to tire diameter. Otherwise, yeah sure.