screwed by Subaru

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i know a guy that won't touch fords because he's tried 3, and they all rusted out on him.

i know a guy that won't touch honda's because they had a transmission in one car that was made of glass, and they never fessed up to it.

i know a guy that won't touch chevy's because his overheated a number of times until it cracked the block.

go ahead, name any brand. i bet anyone else here can cover the brands i didn't. we're dealing with a coagulation of parts that when assembled, contain and control explosives in a way that makes for movement. we then insist on hurtling them down the highway, over terrible roads, at speed.

things are going to go wrong in that equation.

I won't touch Chrysler/ Dodge because I've had too many. Jeep Cherokee, Mitsubishi eclipse (Chrysler motor), dodge neon. They were all reliable in their time but by the time I got them used they all had some sort of issue.

[Itsthebeast]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i know a guy that won't touch fords because he's tried 3, and they all rusted out on him.

i know a guy that won't touch honda's because they had a transmission in one car that was made of glass, and they never fessed up to it.

i know a guy that won't touch chevy's because his overheated a number of times until it cracked the block.

go ahead, name any brand. i bet anyone else here can cover the brands i didn't. we're dealing with a coagulation of parts that when assembled, contain and control explosives in a way that makes for movement. we then insist on hurtling them down the highway, over terrible roads, at speed.

things are going to go wrong in that equation.

Yeah I won't touch Ferraris because I can't afford them

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[DarkSideFRS]

yup, i'm done with subaru.. those things are as unreliable as they come... gives Japanese manufacturers a bad name

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I won't touch Chrysler/ Dodge because I've had too many. Jeep Cherokee, Mitsubishi eclipse (Chrysler motor), dodge neon. They were all reliable in their time but by the time I got them used they all had some sort of issue.

A reliable Chrysler? That's an automotive unicorn, like a reliable Fiat and a German car that doesn't turn into a money pit as soon as the warranty expires!

LOL

[TommyW]

My car was fine before the recall fiasco. I have a LOT of friends with Subaru's and Not one has experienced reliability issues. They are Outbacks. Forresters mostly. I think the twins have so many issues is due to the predominantly younger crowd getting em and not maintaining properly and\or abusing the car. Then they either complain or sell then the next guy gets it when it was on the edge of it's reliability life and has issues then it's Subaru's fault.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by dnieves

A reliable Chrysler? That's an automotive unicorn, like a reliable Fiat and a German car that doesn't turn into a money pit as soon as the warranty expires!

LOL

Anything is reliable till it breaks. OP learned this the hard way

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by dnieves

A reliable Chrysler? That's an automotive unicorn, like a reliable Fiat and a German car that doesn't turn into a money pit as soon as the warranty expires!

LOL

my chrysler was technically reliable. it started and moved every time.

but it leaked trans fluid at a rate that sometimes limited movement to 1st gear.

it also had no heat, or a/c, and the interior puddled when it rained...

but it never failed to start up.

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by soundman98

my chrysler was technically reliable. it started and moved every time.

but it leaked trans fluid at a rate that sometimes limited movement to 1st gear.

it also had no heat, or a/c, and the interior puddled when it rained...

but it never failed to start up.

Too many posts over the years of Chryslers leaving you stuck or dropping dead after leaving the showroom (Pacifica, 300s, and 200s in particular). No automotive brand/model is immune to horror stories but certain brands prove their business model is profit over quality.

To be fair, if I bought anything from Chevrolet (except established future mid engine Corvettes), Ford or Chrysler it'd be only a truck but never a car. I've become spoiled with 13 & 7 completely trouble free years with my Toyota and Honda coupes.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by dnieves

Too many posts over the years of Chryslers leaving you stuck or dropping dead after leaving the showroom (Pacifica, 300s, and 200s in particular). No automotive brand/model is immune to horror stories but certain brands prove their business model is profit over quality.

To be fair, if I bought anything from Chevrolet (except established future mid engine Corvettes), Ford or Chrysler it'd be only a truck but never a car. I've become spoiled with 13 & 7 completely trouble free years with my Toyota and Honda coupes.

that reminds me, know a guy that's on his second bed on his chevy. just sold the truck and bought new because the second bed rotted out. i believe it was a 2008 truck, so he averaged about 4-6 years per bed...

[Decep]

Originally Posted by dnieves

Too many posts over the years of Chryslers leaving you stuck or dropping dead after leaving the showroom (Pacifica, 300s, and 200s in particular). No automotive brand/model is immune to horror stories but certain brands prove their business model is profit over quality.

To be fair, if I bought anything from Chevrolet (except established future mid engine Corvettes), Ford or Chrysler it'd be only a truck but never a car. I've become spoiled with 13 & 7 completely trouble free years with my Toyota and Honda coupes.

Speaking of Chevy i saw you can lease a 6.2liter equipped Camaro for under 300 a month.. that's nucking futs.

[etherdude]

Originally Posted by soundman98

that reminds me, know a guy that's on his second bed on his chevy. just sold the truck and bought new because the second bed rotted out. i believe it was a 2008 truck, so he averaged about 4-6 years per bed...

If he would just stop hauling salt!

My 2005 GMC Canyon (5 cyl) had a "head problem". The head was replaced at around 40,000 miles in a recall/warranty campaign. When the truck turned 50,000 miles the dealer "flushed" the 4L60E 4 spd transmission (I let him at his recommendation, BIG mistake!). They didn't tighten the hose clamp on the radiator connection (trans cooler built into the rad). It dumped all of its trans fluid in the first 15 miles. Lo and behold, a year later, the transmission failed and I had to pay for a new one. (Yeah I tried arguing)

I traded the truck in at 80,000 miles for a 2012 Yaris SE 5-speed, which was replaced in 2014 by my first FR-S. The pickup bed was just fine!

I will never buy a vehicle from that dealer again.

[Grady]

Originally Posted by etherdude

If he would just stop hauling salt!

My 2005 GMC Canyon (5 cyl) had a "head problem". The head was replaced at around 40,000 miles in a recall/warranty campaign. When the truck turned 50,000 miles the dealer "flushed" the 4L60E 4 spd transmission (I let him at his recommendation, BIG mistake!). They didn't tighten the hose clamp on the radiator connection (trans cooler built into the rad). It dumped all of its trans fluid in the first 15 miles. Lo and behold, a year later, the transmission failed and I had to pay for a new one. (Yeah I tried arguing)

I traded the truck in at 80,000 miles for a 2012 Yaris SE 5-speed, which was replaced in 2014 by my first FR-S. The pickup bed was just fine!

I will never buy a vehicle from that dealer again.

I also had a 2005 5 cylinder Colorado that had the possible head issue. Bought it new in 05 put 160k miles on it up until last year when I replaced it with a new Ranger. Never had any valve issues. 3 sets of tires, 3 transmission fluid changes, lots of oil changes and fuel, no issues. Most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned. My Step Father has it now and still going strong. My transmission started acting up around 80K found out the 4L60E does not like Castrol synthetic. Swapped out to Mobil 1 and it started shifting better then when it was new.

[Drakezadrift]

It is very unfortunate that OP went through all this, but I'm left wondering about a few things.

Did OP buy it knowing that it had an excessively noisy motor from the start? Perhaps he thought it was normal, but it really could've been a clue from the start that valve clearances were off. Improper valve clearances are rarely subtle.

I'm wondering if the intake cam gear jumped a tooth or was it set that way on the assembly line? Or better yet.. Maybe someone else had it apart before the car was purchased?

Am I understanding this right in that he had the job done 2 months after he bought the car? No additional warranty was offered from the dealer? Not even a short term one? That alone was a massive risk OP took, even if it was a low mileage car. Buying a car without any warranty is always a risk regardless of make and model.

I'll also echo what others have been saying. Not every single car produced is going to be perfect. Even well known reliable models are known to have some rare defects sometimes or have some bad days on the assembly line. Unfortunately, some people just draw the short straw when it comes to buying cars.

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by etherdude

If he would just stop hauling salt!

My 2005 GMC Canyon (5 cyl) had a "head problem". The head was replaced at around 40,000 miles in a recall/warranty campaign. When the truck turned 50,000 miles the dealer "flushed" the 4L60E 4 spd transmission (I let him at his recommendation, BIG mistake!). They didn't tighten the hose clamp on the radiator connection (trans cooler built into the rad). It dumped all of its trans fluid in the first 15 miles. Lo and behold, a year later, the transmission failed and I had to pay for a new one. (Yeah I tried arguing)

I traded the truck in at 80,000 miles for a 2012 Yaris SE 5-speed, which was replaced in 2014 by my first FR-S. The pickup bed was just fine!

I will never buy a vehicle from that dealer again.

For hauling salt do you think Rhino spray on lining would've helped?

Sorry to hear about the GMC.