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Old 04-30-2014, 07:02 PM   #1
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Tarmac 2 vs KW clubsport

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We use 400 lbs/in springs front and rear with our RCE T2 Clubsports. KW clubs use 340/400.

KW Clubs come with top mounts but that makes them a good bit more expensive.

NO warranty on KW Clubsports.

LIFETIME warranty on RCE T2 Clubsports.

We started with KW clubsport valving and massaged it after a lot of track and street testing. It's also got a little more room in the adjustability for firmer springs.

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I have KW Clubsports with 340/400 and am slowly converging (at least I think I am) on proper damper settings. Some have said that the Clubsports and Standard V3s have the same damping, yet when trying to set the damper up to the Standard V3 recommended settings, it does not handle bumps that well. Andy, can you confirm if they are the same, and the only change is inclusion of top mounts?

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I have KW Clubsports with 340/400 and am slowly converging (at least I think I am) on proper damper settings. Some have said that the Clubsports and Standard V3s have the same damping, yet when trying to set the damper up to the Standard V3 recommended settings, it does not handle bumps that well. Andy, can you confirm if they are the same, and the only change is inclusion of top mounts?

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They are not the same.

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We use 400 lbs/in springs front and rear with our RCE T2 Clubsports. KW clubs use 340/400.

KW Clubs come with top mounts but that makes them a good bit more expensive.

NO warranty on KW Clubsports.

LIFETIME warranty on RCE T2 Clubsports.

We started with KW clubsport valving and massaged it after a lot of track and street testing. It's also got a little more room in the adjustability for firmer springs.

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According to this page KW offers a lifetime warranty.

http://kw-suspension.com/us/kw_faqs.php

What further upgrades are available for the tarmac 2 and how do these compare to say jRZ coilovers.
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http://kw-suspension.com/us/kw_faqs.php

What further upgrades are available for the tarmac 2 and how do these compare to say jRZ coilovers.
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Street Coilovers , Variant 1, Variant 2, Variant 3, Street Comfort Limited Lifetime Warrantee
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Club Sport Coilovers, 2 way Race Coilovers, 3 way Race Coilovers No warrantee.
KW's lifetime warranty is only valid on their street suspensions, so yes on Variant 3 and no on Clubsports.

We can add camber plates and use stiffer spring rates as an option. Not all users will need this.

JRZ are fantastic coilovers as well...we have a lot of experience helping them dial in their Subaru applications including BRZ. They are a step above Tarmac 2s but also quite a bit more money. I'd recommend them for very serious track day and auto-x drivers, though they can still ride well on the street.

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KW's lifetime warranty is only valid on their street suspensions, so yes on Variant 3 and no on Clubsports.

We can add camber plates and use stiffer spring rates as an option. Not all users will need this.

JRZ are fantastic coilovers as well...we have a lot of experience helping them dial in their Subaru applications including BRZ. They are a step above Tarmac 2s but also quite a bit more money. I'd recommend them for very serious track day and auto-x drivers, though they can still ride well on the street.

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Will you be offering a version of the clubsport 3 way adjustable coilovers?
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Will you be offering a version of the clubsport 3 way adjustable coilovers?
Possibly, but not anytime soon. At that price point I would consider JRZ.

Here's a thread with some of our experiences with JRZ on our shop car:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11759

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