![]() |
#15 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: 13 White MT FR-S
Location: Gastonia, NC
Posts: 1,843
Thanks: 977
Thanked 1,137 Times in 524 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
can you run other fuels besides pump and ethanol?
__________________
|
![]() |
![]() |
#16 |
Saving them pennies...
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 641
Thanks: 44
Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
I dont really understand what this is doing. Is this something to make the system completely E85 compatable?
Or is it something to run E85 on a daily bases? Or its a E85/93 system that changes on the fly depending whats in the tank? |
![]() |
![]() |
#17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,201
Thanks: 59
Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
There is already an E85 map if you want to run just E85. What is happening now is Flex Fuel which uses a sensor to detect the amount of ethanol content in the fuel and adjust mapping on the fly so that you no longer have to load up different maps. So, for example, whereas you have to run the tank almost dry before switching from E85 to 91/93 or vice-versa, with the flex fuel tune and kit, you can just fill up with whatever you want whenever and it will adjust accordingly.
|
![]() |
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to cnk For This Useful Post: |
![]() |
#19 |
Grip>Slip
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 13 SWP BRZ Ltd - Innovate Powered!
Location: RVA
Posts: 3,563
Thanks: 656
Thanked 1,716 Times in 1,031 Posts
Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
Also comes in real handy when your station changes the E85 mix down to E70 for winter. No need to retune for lower ethanol content.
|
![]() |
![]() |
#20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 1995 Ford Probe
Location: Iceland
Posts: 375
Thanks: 31
Thanked 37 Times in 32 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
arent you supposed to turn off your engine when you pump any kind of fuel for safety reasons? hmm
|
![]() |
![]() |
#21 | |
I Love custom Turbo kits
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,770
Thanks: 20,004
Thanked 8,346 Times in 4,361 Posts
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
#22 | |
I Love custom Turbo kits
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,770
Thanks: 20,004
Thanked 8,346 Times in 4,361 Posts
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
With this Kit, you can have your tank half full with 93 and decide you want to fill up with E85 and it will be ok, becuase the sensor will calculate the amount of Ethanol content present in the gas (in this example lets say it is E40 because of the 93) and the same map will adjust to whatever ethanol content you have on the tank, and maximize performance for this content. So, instead of having two different maps for 93 and E85, you now have one map that works with 93, and E0 to E99.
__________________
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
#23 |
Saving them pennies...
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 641
Thanks: 44
Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
I see what you mean. But if E85 is cheaper why would anyone want to go back to 93?
I understand you need to put more E85 into the camber to make power but how about a system that lets your run E85 with and get the same MPG as 93 and when you want to get down with the get down it changes. idk if that makes any sense to anyone but i hope you know what i mean. |
![]() |
![]() |
#24 | |
Banned
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Visconti For This Useful Post: | raul (12-19-2012), Sportsguy83 (12-14-2012) |
![]() |
#25 | |
I Love custom Turbo kits
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Limited BRZ
Location: Miami
Posts: 10,770
Thanks: 20,004
Thanked 8,346 Times in 4,361 Posts
Mentioned: 441 Post(s)
Tagged: 12 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Second example, out of nowhere you get an invitation for track day tomorrow and you want to run E85 but unfortunately you are half a tank of 93. Presently, you are out of luck, you have to run the tank out and refill E85 or give up the idea and run 93. With this kit, you can get at least part of the E85 performance improvement benefit and get certain percentage ethanol which will be better than a 93 fill. Also, for some people that don't drive their car every day, it can be a bit of a concern leaving ethanol in the gas tank sitting for days because moisture can build up. With this kit, I can fill 1/2 with ethanol, use it for track day and then if at the end of the day I know the car is going to be sitting for a week I go ahead and fill it out with 93 and don't mind the amount of Ethanol that was left..... Its just a matter of expanding in the goods that we already have. Lastly, a kit that will make E85 have the same MPG than 93 (like switch to a map that allows that) I think would mean you would be making less power than the stock car, so in that case it is better to have two maps to switch to, one 93 and one E85... But again, this solves it all!
__________________
|
|
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to Sportsguy83 For This Useful Post: | raul (12-19-2012) |
![]() |
#26 |
Saving them pennies...
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 641
Thanks: 44
Thanked 178 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
^ very good points!
Thx |
![]() |
The Following User Says Thank You to Cheddar For This Useful Post: | Sportsguy83 (12-14-2012) |
![]() |
#27 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: 99' M3, 13' SWP Brz
Location: Durham/Pinehurst, NC
Posts: 346
Thanks: 89
Thanked 85 Times in 67 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Bravo
|
![]() |
![]() |
#28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 86 (FR-S)
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 643
Thanks: 460
Thanked 214 Times in 148 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Just what I've been waiting for since E85 is available to me, but not real convenient to get to. This is badass!
|
![]() |
|
|
![]() |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
FS: Tein Flex Coilover | Jade 86 | Brakes, Suspension, Chassis | 43 | 06-15-2013 09:35 PM |
Dynosty FR-S/BRZ Fuel System Upgrades! Deatschwerks DW65C Fuel Pump | Dustin@Dynosty | Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons | 3 | 08-21-2012 04:53 PM |
Another FRS with Flex | sidnacious | Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing | 11 | 08-14-2012 10:32 AM |
Tein Flex inside! | Silverdub | Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing | 31 | 07-22-2012 04:46 PM |
Flex Fuel? | VenomRush | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 12 | 01-15-2010 02:55 AM |