Performance Pack track essentials

[Turbowned]

Got back from my first track event at Palmer Motorsports Park and I'm happy to report it was a great event! I had 2 hours of total track time and about 45 laps on the 2.3 mile course. The car was incredibly communicative, planted, consistent, and the brakes and tires never fell off! There were only ~6 cars in my run group and I was able to get the point-by from a newer Mustang 5.0 that was trailered, a new Camaro ZL1, and an E46 330ci. The cars that got by me were a Cayman GT4, F80 M3 and a GT-R.

I did wear the outer shoulder of the RE-71R's out a bit so I will mount them opposite on the wheels to get another day or two out of them, but I really need more front camber. Brakes were fantastic; I went with Winmax W5's and Castrol SRF React fluid and I could hammer on them consistently from 115 on the front straight to get the speed down into turn one. I'm interested to see how much more time I can pick up from driver mod before having to alter the car some more!

[churchx]

Problem with NOT using camberbolts in both holes - what other option there is to get reasonable track camber if lowering/replacing with camberplates rubber topmounts/slotting current struts/changing to preslotted struts or coilovers is not considerable option? -1.5 camber of one camberbolt set while being better then stock, still is insufficient to prevent outer tire wear/getting full grip on track. -2.3 with both is better then that. With camberbolts in both holes & powerflex eccentric bushing for LCA i was able to get wished -3.
P.S.
While certainly smaller diameter (for adjustment play) camberbolts are less strong against shearing or braking off from very strong shocks vs full/larger diameter stock bolts, slipping bit can almost completely prevented by simple hack like using loctite/nail polish/paint to "glue" them in/greatly reducing chance for them to move. Another hint one can use - paint stripe over bolt & strut. Easy to notice if it had moved.

[bmxr]

That said, is there a consensus on the best camber plates for actual track use? I read through a lot of threads and I did not pick up on what the best was. Kind of expected Vorschlag's to be mentioned more given the amount of work they put into developing them, but the forum seems to have ignored them. Unless my searching skills just suck...

[JSube]

Originally Posted by bmxr

That said, is there a consensus on the best camber plates for actual track use? I read through a lot of threads and I did not pick up on what the best was. Kind of expected Vorschlag's to be mentioned more given the amount of work they put into developing them, but the forum seems to have ignored them. Unless my searching skills just suck...

Basic searches are not always rewarded on the site, some people say your chances are better on google using the part/vehicle with the forum name.

I have Vorshlag front plates, the first set started making noise quickly with no more than 1 track day, if any. My installer rechecked the install and returned them. He had a mild argument with Vor. about installation but they replaced the bearings and returned them quickly. He's still a big fan of Vorshlag, the shop does a lot of track day/endurance event builds. I've had them now for probably 5K+ miles and 6 track days and all is good.

I'm at stock height tho on the performance package with the Sachs dampers and the camber maxed out at -2.4. Unrelated to camber plates, but my installer noticed on the last pre-HPDE inspection a week ago that one of the shock spindles (front left) is a tiny bit loose, presumably from loading on-track. (May end up with coilovers, Ohlins for example have much beefier spindles.)

Another member here has a BRZ track car and he's getting good service out of Raceseng front plates.

[mistople]

Originally Posted by bmxr

That said, is there a consensus on the best camber plates for actual track use? I read through a lot of threads and I did not pick up on what the best was. Kind of expected Vorschlag's to be mentioned more given the amount of work they put into developing them, but the forum seems to have ignored them. Unless my searching skills just suck...

Raceseng usually gets the vote from what I've seen.

[i8ur911]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Got back from my first track event at Palmer Motorsports Park and I'm happy to report it was a great event! I had 2 hours of total track time and about 45 laps on the 2.3 mile course. The car was incredibly communicative, planted, consistent, and the brakes and tires never fell off! There were only ~6 cars in my run group and I was able to get the point-by from a newer Mustang 5.0 that was trailered, a new Camaro ZL1, and an E46 330ci. The cars that got by me were a Cayman GT4, F80 M3 and a GT-R.

I did wear the outer shoulder of the RE-71R's out a bit so I will mount them opposite on the wheels to get another day or two out of them, but I really need more front camber. Brakes were fantastic; I went with Winmax W5's and Castrol SRF React fluid and I could hammer on them consistently from 115 on the front straight to get the speed down into turn one. I'm interested to see how much more time I can pick up from driver mod before having to alter the car some more!

What club did you run with?

I'm running at Palmer next weekend for the first time in my BRZ (have a different dedicated track car). I absolutely love that track.

Did you run CW or CCW? Did you keep track of lap times?

Can't wait to get out there with the BRZ. I ran an event earlier this year at NHMS with the BRZ and was very impressed with the chassis.

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[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by i8ur911

What club did you run with?

I'm running at Palmer next weekend for the first time in my BRZ (have a different dedicated track car). I absolutely love that track.

Did you run CW or CCW? Did you keep track of lap times?

Can't wait to get out there with the BRZ. I ran an event earlier this year at NHMS with the BRZ and was very impressed with the chassis.

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Sorry, way late to the party here! There was no sanctioning body; Palmer put the event on. Ran CCW, my best lap time from what I recorded on my last session (not my best, but I kinda forgot my car had a lap timer until then) was 1:58"66

[Turbowned]

Signed up for SCCA Track Night at Lime Rock Park tomorrow; been my dream to get out on the track there ever since I started spectating at American Le Mans Series back in 2006. Finally going to make it out on track there, and not a moment too soon because I move to Colorado Springs in less than two weeks! Looks like my new home track will be Pike's Peak International Raceway If any other southern CO owners are on here, gimme a shout!

[mkodama]

Congrats on the first track day! Fun car, isn’t it?

I got the SPC front camber bolts to help with wear on the front outside corners and it fixed that problem on the stock tires, but kinda created another one; the car is very oversteer prone now. Lift-off oversteer and throttle induced oversteer are very real things now, which are hurting confidence a little bit. I have -1.5 degrees of camber with the bolts maxed out. -1.9 is possible if you move the lower bolts to the upper holes and use the SPC bolts in the lower hole.

[Turbowned]

The car was brilliant at Lime Rock; I'm trying to get a hold of pictures! I signed up for the intermediate group (novice, intermediate, advanced) and was pleasantly surprised to find myself getting the point-by from just about the entire field! My only gripe about the Track Night event was that it was over too soon! My fastest lap logged was 1'07"86 which is by no means fast but I feel it was pretty good for my expectations

[lutfy]

Posting here as this may be the right place for the PP cars. I have a set of Performance Friction race pads (f/r) used to bed the brakes and car was sold (for a friend). Will let it go cheap, if it benefits anyone; PM me. Thx.

Lutfy

[Turbowned]

Moved out to Colorado Springs at the beginning of the month; got my first lapping day out here at High Plains Raceway with SCCA Track Night! I could use more power at this altitude, less rear camber and more front camber but I still managed to put the squeeze on most of the cars in my run group, notable exceptions being an F82 M3, 997.2 C2S, and a 240Z BRE Tribute car. Still having tons of fun! I forgot to use the lap timer and camera, which was an afterthought. Put a wheel off on turn six a few times getting overzealous chasing some cars but otherwise a drama-free day! Looking forward to going back and trying Pueblo and PPIR soon

[Turbowned]

Open lapping day at Pueblo Motorsports Park tomorrow; next mod is an oil cooler and then I want to do some research on a catted equal length header, intake setup and a good flex fuel setup; it would be nice to get back to making acceptable power levels. Forced induction won't be in the cards as I'd rather just buy a faster car than spend $5-10k+ on a turbo or s/c setup; Alfa 4C's are dipping into the low $40k range and in another year I bet they'll be in the high $30's!

[JSube]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Open lapping day at Pueblo Motorsports Park tomorrow; next mod is an oil cooler and then I want to do some research on a catted equal length header, intake setup and a good flex fuel setup; it would be nice to get back to making acceptable power levels. Forced induction won't be in the cards as I'd rather just buy a faster car than spend $5-10k+ on a turbo or s/c setup; Alfa 4C's are dipping into the low $40k range and in another year I bet they'll be in the high $30's!

I'm of the same opinion regarding how to get more power out of our cars, trying to keep under the line between enhancement and re-engineering. I've spent around $3500 on CSG's NA Power Pkg (you could reduce that total by skipping the exhaust if you like since it doesn't provide power by itself and buy something used) and a Delicious Flex Fuel module- it's been great working with Delicious on dialing in the tune, amazing customer service and experience. Completely changes the power delivery in the car to linear, doesn't overwhelm the chassis (not willing to go to good coilovers) and makes the car much more fun in any situation, street or track.