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Old 03-15-2016, 04:44 PM   #981
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Ohi. Any lessons learned from install? Extra things not listed, what not to do, etc. Other than destroying my manifold gasket.

Planning on doing teardown on Wednesday night while I wait for the box to arrive, then buildup all day Thursday!
The first thing you should do is to read the first few pages of the instructions and email edelbrock for the tune.

Make sure you have a strong friend(s) around for the part where you position the supercharger. If you can get some tools specifically for hose clamps it wouldn't hurt. Don't put the factory snorkel back on, don't forget to put the radiator shroud back on. Some of the steps don't have pictures, read the instructions very carefully so you don't miss anything.
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Ohi. Any lessons learned from install? Extra things not listed, what not to do, etc. Other than destroying my manifold gasket.

Planning on doing teardown on Wednesday night while I wait for the box to arrive, then buildup all day Thursday!
Not sure if its been fixed on the newer kits, but I found the screws for the MAF sensor to be too long (or hole for the MAF housing too shallow, so have some washers handy (not sure what size) to be able to screw down the MAF correctly.
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:12 PM   #983
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Not sure if its been fixed on the newer kits, but I found the screws for the MAF sensor to be too long (or hole for the MAF housing too shallow, so have some washers handy (not sure what size) to be able to screw down the MAF correctly.
I asked my shop and they said they had no issue with them.
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2 zip ties cut down to the hard bits have worked wonders. no damage done to the clips


-Using the 2 zip ties, find the two tabs (180degrees apart) on the inside of yellow/green quick connector, and push the flat part of the zip ties in to raise the tabs.
-Pull the hose + quick connector out (yellow/green slides out with it)
I want to say we used the zip tie trick when we worked on my STi actually. Either way this is a non issue I think.

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The first thing you should do is to read the first few pages of the instructions and email edelbrock for the tune.

Make sure you have a strong friend(s) around for the part where you position the supercharger. If you can get some tools specifically for hose clamps it wouldn't hurt. Don't put the factory snorkel back on, don't forget to put the radiator shroud back on. Some of the steps don't have pictures, read the instructions very carefully so you don't miss anything.
Seems like it's all pretty basic stuff. I decided against the Edelbrock tune due to seeing the issues a couple of guys were having, and wanted something more tailored anyway. Should be a few of us doing the install so no issues lifting the top end. I actually even checked with Subaru to see if there were manifold gaskets local in case I accidentally shave one down.
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:46 AM   #985
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Well, productive day. We pulled the manifold, taped everything off, and called it a night. Not bad for three hours of work in low light.

Still don't know what the hell I'm going to do about the rivet nuts.
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I want to say we used the zip tie trick when we worked on my STi actually. Either way this is a non issue I think.



Seems like it's all pretty basic stuff. I decided against the Edelbrock tune due to seeing the issues a couple of guys were having, and wanted something more tailored anyway. Should be a few of us doing the install so no issues lifting the top end. I actually even checked with Subaru to see if there were manifold gaskets local in case I accidentally shave one down.
I got extra gaskets too. Smart. They are easy to pinch
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Well, productive day. We pulled the manifold, taped everything off, and called it a night. Not bad for three hours of work in low light.

Still don't know what the hell I'm going to do about the rivet nuts.
You can make your own rivet nut tool using a bolt, nut, and washer/spacer. I was looking at rivet nut tools but it didn't seem cost-effective to purchase a specialty tool for a single use.

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Has anyone started pushing these with E85 and smaller pulleys? I'm curious to know how much power you can safely make with one before you need to build the engine.
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I got extra gaskets too. Smart. They are easy to pinch
I didn't actually buy them, I just checked on stock to make sure they were in the warehouse on island. When you live in Hawaii, every complication goes just that little bit more south on you.

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You can make your own rivet nut tool using a bolt, nut, and washer/spacer. I was looking at rivet nut tools but it didn't seem cost-effective to purchase a specialty tool for a single use.
Yeah I was thinking the same. For some reason I can't load Youtube this morning, but is that the video where he drills out a pipe? I was like wtf is he doing? He could just use washers.
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Has anyone started pushing these with E85 and smaller pulleys? I'm curious to know how much power you can safely make with one before you need to build the engine.
I don't think it's a kit related restriction but the common consensus seems to be ~300whp you should be looking at internals, regardless of how you're making that power (turbo/SC/juice/etc.).
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I thought it was 400whp? I thought 300 is where the clutch slips and fuel system starts to fall short, 400 the internals and tranny.

That number could be lower when you're making more torque at lower RPM's though.
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Yes I did too. But the car is still giving fault codes and running rough below 1500 rpm. I sent new data logs to Zach at Delicious and he aid there are still vacuum leaks.
It is never the tuning, of course.
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It is never the tuning, of course.
Check all your injector plugs. Make sure all of the prongs are straight and not bent.
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That's an easy one we might have overlooked...

Also, if injectors aren't lined up with metal tabs it could contribute to a rough idle due to the specific spray pattern of the injectors.
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