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Old 10-28-2020, 02:51 AM   #1
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Sick passengers

As much as I like driving by myself, my wife won’t ride passenger in either of my cars. My brother gets sick when I go for spirited drives with him. A couple of my other friends won’t go either.

Is this common for most everyone?
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Old 10-28-2020, 03:46 AM   #2
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Not "sick" but I've taken my parents or sister (one at a time of course) on errands and stuff and they absolutely hate it.

But that's because they don't drive sports cars so they're just used to the floating sofa feeling of the Camry or w/e.

Of course my dad absolutely loathes being a passenger anytime/in any car, so he's constantly reaching for the ceiling handle that our cars don't have even when I'm going the speed limit .
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Old 10-28-2020, 04:34 AM   #3
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LOL Down here they are Soft cocks or Pussies but motion sickness is a bitch. I`m old and my mrs and I love it
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:09 AM   #4
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It's your driving.

When I went through flight training years ago my pilot instructor said something that stuck with me. I was making hard banks into maneuvers. My instructor said, "It's a lot more fun to fly the way you're doing it, but on your next one try leading into the turn a little to make the transition smoother. If you ever talk a girlfriend into flying with you, she'll enjoy the ride a lot more if you smooth it out." (He was right.)

Ever since then I also make a conscious effort to drive smoothly whenever I have a passenger. Don't sling 'em around. Contrary to lessons learned from titty drifting videos, most people aren't entertained by your automotive masturbation.
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Old 10-28-2020, 06:08 AM   #5
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It's your driving.

When I went through flight training years ago my pilot instructor said something that stuck with me. I was making hard banks into maneuvers. My instructor said, "It's a lot more fun to fly the way you're doing it, but on your next one try leading into the turn a little to make the transition smoother. If you ever talk a girlfriend into flying with you, she'll enjoy the ride a lot more if you smooth it out." (He was right.)

Ever since then I also make a conscious effort to drive smoothly whenever I have a passenger. Don't sling 'em around. Contrary to lessons learned from titty drifting videos, most people aren't entertained by your automotive masturbation.

^This. Put three young pups in the back, two who get motion sickness, and you learn to drive smooth real fast.



Being a passenger sucks if you're being tossed all over the place.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:51 AM   #6
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There are many reasons to drive smoothly rather than making dramatic moves, obviously your passenger(s) will appreciate it but radical weight transitions make it more likely that the vehicle will become unsettled and lose traction. IMO the fastest and safest way through any maneuver is to maintain traction so you can stay on the power for as long as possible. While it might be fun to slide around it's certainly not efficient and it's definitely uncomfortable for most people when they're not driving.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:55 AM   #7
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Not to be totally contrarian here but it also depends on your passenger...some people just get physically uncomfortable with spirited driving quicker than others.
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Old 10-28-2020, 08:13 AM   #8
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I drive smoothly, sometimes the issue is the passenger. My wife weighs 106lbs and is 5'1". She cannot sit in the seat well, and additionally, she has a propensity towards leaning forward. Her trying to lean forward all the time through bumps and during acceleration/'braking contributes to her feeling nauseous significantly. This happens in any vehicle she rides in, and if available, she condemns herself to the back seats.

Maybe adjust the passenger seat to be more upright to stop your passengers from subconsciously trying to lean forwards (if they are). Also, be smooth if you're not being smooth, they will notice it and thank you.
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Old 10-28-2020, 08:59 AM   #9
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Even at 20MPH on the rare occasions my wife will even get into my car:


"It's too low I am scared"
"It's too loud I am getting a headache"
"Slow down that is too fast" (remember it is 20MPH)
"That truck doesn't see us he is going to run right over the car"
"Don't turn that fast"
"Watch out for that car" (somebody is turning 6 blocks ahead of us)
"Everybody is staring at ME"


All of this is accompanied by frantic door grabs and stomps on an imaginary brake pedal every single time another car is in sight.


Mind you she has also become that little old lady driver from hell that will not do anything beyond 5 MPH under the limit, hammers on the brakes and stops if she even thinks the light may change to caution, stays at least 10 car lengths back from anybody in front of her, comes to a complete stop before turning right into a lot and will rip your head off and shit down your neck if you point out any of these actually dangerous actions to her!
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My wife gets car sick and has puked in every single car I have ever owned. I've found that taking everything a bit slower and really paying attention to reducing both peak acceleration and jerk (derivative of acceleration) usually helps. Sometimes all it takes is a single mistake or somebody pulling out in front of you to set it off. Also turn up the fan or crack a window, cool airflow helps too.
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This is easily the best sentence I will read all week. Thank you for that.
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Old 10-28-2020, 09:28 AM   #12
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I don't even want to drive with my girlfriend anymore for reasons you stated @Tcoat
Mainly me getting yelled at if I mention anything.

She isn't that had, but she's a notorious late braker and signals as/after braking. She's also hard on her clutch between shifts. Giving lots of throttle and riding it more than nessesarly.
We recently bought a 2020 Impreza 5spd to replace her dying focus and I think it'll force her to smooth out her shifting due to the rev hang.

She did get nauseous once the first drive after I installed springs. It hasn't been an issue since.
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Old 10-28-2020, 09:30 AM   #13
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My wife loves the car and brisk drives in it. In days gone by we rode all over Texas on a variety of motorcycles ranging from single cam Honda 750s, to a Norton 850 to a VFR800. She loved the bikes, but reasonably, drew the line if her toes touched the asphalt in a corner. A few years ago I had to pull into a turnout on the Tail of the Dragon to keep her from redecorating the dashboard of my BRZ.

My driving moto is in my sig, but despite that on roads like the tail of the dragon, or the "twisted sisters" in central Texas she is prone to motion sickness. I've been in small airplanes flying unusual attitudes/modest aerobatics. If I was at the controls it was never an issue, but when I was just along for the ride, I'd be green after a bit. Winding, "swoopy," roads in a car like the BRZ can have a similar effect on people, even those who have no qualms about the speed.
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All this reminds me that I need to hug my wife when I get home.

She drives her Mustang like a bat out of hell, although thankfully not like a asshat leaving a Cars and Coffee. She giggled like a schoolgirl the whole time we were on the Tail of the Dragon, then insisted she get to drive it in the opposite direction when we came back a couple of days later.
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